• commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    The absence of exploitation is indicated through consent,

    no, it’s not. it’s exploitation by the barest definition, like exploiting a fallow field or a forest. the definition of exploitation can by synonymously defined as “use”. using a corpse is exploiting it. using a corpse which has, with informed consent, been consigned for use is still exploitation.

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      That would imply that vegans could not have sex with each other because it “uses” the body of an animal.

      Exploitation involves one using the vulnerability of another in order to gain something in an unfair manner. It’s not simply “use”.

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        2 months ago

        the barest definition is a synonym of “use”. the vegan society could clear up this ambiguity but they have chosen not to do so, and there is no reason to assume they prefer a special definition of exploitation.

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          If you want the barest understanding, I guess the barest definitions are “good enough”. If you want a more sophisticated understanding then you have to take the time to understand the actual philosophical lexicon that the definition relies upon, since, as it points out itself, “Veganism is a philosophy”.

          Y’know, considering your username is commie, I’m surprised you don’t have a better understanding of exploitation, as Marx was really pivotal in developing that philosophical concept.

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            I’m surprised you don’t have a better understanding of exploitation

            you have no idea what my understanding is. that’s not the subject of our discussion. don’t make this personal.

            we are discussing the vegan society’s understanding.

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              Approximately 0.01% of lemmy’s user base would conflate simple “use” with exploitation. I warned you about sophistry before. If you have knowledge relevant to the domain at hand, put it to use, or stop wasting both of our time.