IDF: Whoops, tee hee.

  • capital@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    Is lemmy having trouble telling the difference between Hamas and Hezbollah now?

    • jol@discuss.tchncs.de
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      1 day ago

      No? This is implying that Israel has had the technology to precisely target people for months but chooses to destroy a whole region instead went it came to Palestine.

      • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        24 hours ago

        to be clear, you can’t directly target an individual, you can maybe potentially target a single individual.

        This is also not to mention the cost and accessibility of doing something like this at scale. It’s theorized they either got into the factories, or somehow got through the shipment and intercepted it to do this operation.

        It’s possible they acted as a middleman but that would be really really hard to do at scale like this.

        And even if they did this in palestine, it would only work once.

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          11 hours ago

          The cost? You mean these bombs are more expensive that the weapons used to level Gaza? The ones they only get because other countries sell them?

        • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          10 hours ago

          Why would it only work once? It literally just worked twice in Lebanon. Lebanon is a sovereign nation that is not completely under the oppressive rule of a colonial occupier like Gaza is.

          Israel controls everything and everyone that enters and exits Gaza. If they can do it in Lebanon, they can do it in Gaza.

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          23 hours ago

          You don’t need to speculate or theorize; they say exactly how they did it. I cut to the exact part of the video where it is succinctly explained.

          You’ll also notice that, according to Ben/according to Israel/according to Hezbollah… they advertised that they were going to stop using phones & switch to pagers. In July. So people going on about “they could have done this all along” are wrong. It’s been since sometime in July. This July. Which makes this a very fast & even more effective military operation.

          Yes, the shell company was set up 1.5 years ago. Date of sale, idk. But common sense: you need to sell your enemy the goods…and you need to know with relative certainty that the hardware is actively in use. So: since July.

        • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          10 hours ago

          So they can do it to a sovereign nation, but they cannot do it to the completely oppressed population living in territories that they have complete control over, including every person and item that enters and exits? OK.

          Do you just not know what the reality in Gaza is like? Do you not understand the level of control that Israel has exerted on those people for the past 8+ decades?

          There is a reason that nobody can get humanitarian aide to them.

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          1 day ago

          I mean they have the method and the will to use it, that’s all I’m saying. Why couldn’t they intercept the phones and other devices used by Hamas leaders the same way?

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            I mean they have the method and the will to use it, that’s all I’m saying.

            The method may not have been applicable for some reason. Shooting people in the head is a method but unless they line up for you away from everyone who’s not Hamas, that’s not a realistic method to employ.

            • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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              10 hours ago

              for some reason

              Oh ok, super convincing argument. I refer to my previous response regarding the amount of control Israel exerts on Gaza. The suggestion that they could not do something similar there is absurd.

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                8 hours ago

                Oops, you missed this part (I’m sure it was an accident)

                may not have been applicable for some reason

                The comments I’m replying to are absolutely sure what Israel could have done. Mine make it clear I don’t know what Israel knows.

                The burden of proof is on those who seem to think they just need whatever information is on the public internet to know what would or wouldn’t work against various targets.

                Consider dialing back the confidence seeing as no one here knows shit about what intel any groups involved has.

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              24 hours ago

              Agreed! It’s SAFER to just Bomb Orphanages and Schools to ENSURE those Hamas Kids die instead of using your Military Knowledge you Obviously have to find a Way to target ONLY Hamas!