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    2 days ago

    I think you have to adjust your expectations of politics in America. By your standards no one has done shit.

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      Biden promised no student debt as a way to get into office and then didn’t follow through. Brings it back when its election time but yeah my expectations are the problem here…lol

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        Biden has done some good with student debt, starting a couple years ago. He would have done more but was blocked by Republican lawsuits and the Republican supreme court. Don’t let perfect stand in the way of good.

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          Biden knew it wouldn’t pass thats the point. Hes been in office for long enough to know how these things work. He still promised it!

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            Heads up:

            A plan isn’t a promise. It’s just a proposal to enact policy.

            Whey one rewrites a narrative in this way, accusing him of having made a “promise” and then breaking it- one is essentially creating a boogeyman that allows them to show him in a light that favors a clearly biased agenda.

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              https://youtu.be/fjgb_RXNuSs?feature=shared

              But don’t worry his plan is going to succeed this time! Lol also why does this only come up during an election. If you guys are too dumb to understand that Biden is just using you people as votes I can’t help you. I see right through the BS specially after 4 years!

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                Again, there is no record that I am aware of where Biden ever said “I promise… [THING].”

                You’re creating a straw man by purposefully misinterpreting and misrepresenting the difference between a proposed policy and a promise.

                And this will remain true regardless of how many you tube videos you post of people calling it a “promise.” This is a poor argument. You really should abandon it.

                Lastly, be very careful with the “dumb” accusations. There are rules here. You may want to reword that.

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                    Again. It wasn’t a promise. It was an initiative. It was a plan to enact policy. All politicians propose policy. This is not abnormal. He never promised, nor did he guarantee results. He simply said he intended to do what he can to refuse the debt.

                    It was also very publicly blocked by conservatives.

                    Stop making it into something it isn’t.

                    Lastly of course- I warned you about being civil.

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            Biden tried to do it and was blocked by Republicans. That is somehow evidence that Republicans should be given more power?

            Maybe Republicans need to stop being such predictable boogey men then if Biden so easily manipulated them to his advantage. What Republicans should have done to mess with Biden was to not block it.

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              He promised it as part of his presidential run knowing it would never pass. He lied to you!

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                No, he very much did everything he could to push it through. He did not know during the presidential run if Republicans would have enough seats to block it.

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                  23 hours ago

                  This man has been in politics since 1970 and you think he doesnt know how things work. I thought you had more confidence in this man. No shit the opposite party is going to block him, but a great president like OBAMA was able to get healthcare for everyone just like he promised.

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                    1. When he made his intentions clear there were also seats in the house and Senate being voted on, it was not guaranteed the Republicans would have a majority.

                    2. For those having difficulty following NastyNative’s argument, here is a handy flow chart:

                    I believe we are following the far right branch.

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        Has any US politician done anything for student debit? Is Biden the first presidential candidate who didn’t get what they promised done? This is what I mean, your expectations are not based in reality.

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          Ohh so by your standards let them lie! Got it! No other presidential candidate has promised such a thing.