So a few months back I asked about you guys os in c/asklemmy, so this time I wanna ask about your desktops you use on this same account.
(I use kde but plan to move to cinnamon I find kde buggy and gnome tracker3 randomly broke for no reason + themeing so yh idk if these happened to anybody)
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Long time i3 user, recently switched to Hyprland+Wayland. I just don’t like mice, don’t enjoy using them, and I find the snappiness and responsiveness of keyboard-centric workflows very fun and enjoyable.
I am a software developer, and I am very impatient when it comes to my tools: I like my feedback cycles and interactions to be as tight as possible. This limited study from 2015 showed that developers, on average, spend ~26% of their productive time on stuff that is not related to either code editing or comprehension, including 14% spent on UI interactions. Tiling window manager allows me to streamline most of these interactions through hotkey bindings and shell automation, >!so I prefer spending literal months polishing my dotfiles instead!<
KDE Plasma on all my computers and also as desktop mode on Steam Deck. because it supports the latest technologies especially when it comes to graphics (HDR, VRR) also has best support for Wayland and multi-monitors. It looks great out of the box and it has a lot of features out of the box and I do not need to battle with adding some extensions that break with almost every update. KDE Plasma is also the most flexible desktop and I can set the workflow really to fit my desires and I can actually set many options and settings. And despite all these built-in features and configurability it still uses very few system resources and is very fast and smooth. Oh and the KDE community is one of the most welcoming I have met in FOSS world, and they listen to their users instead of the our way or the high way mentality I have so often encountered in GNOME for example. So yeah TLDR KDE Plasma is the one I like the most of all in the industry, even when compared to proprietary closed alternatives.
KDE for my main PC. Pretty with floating panels, KDE Connect, QT apps are often the best apps in their class and are perfectly integrated (FreeCAD, krita, okular, kdenlive, vlc, dolphin, etc…) And konsole is also very full featured.
I don’t know what KiCAD uses, but it also seems very well integrated into the KDE desktop unlike most gnome apps.
XFCE on MX Linux for an old Intel Compute Stick to keep it very usable.
KDE Plasma because it’s the one I like. If it disappeared tomorrow, I’d use Xfce.
gnome currently because nearly everything i use is designed for gnome and looks mismatched on other DEs. but the gnome workflow largely feels like a prison.
Currently I am on KDE, but I am an xfce lover. I can’t wait for the next xfce update and for Cosmic.
I am living KDE almost default. I have the impression that with too much customisation problems come.
Xfce is rock solid and rock solid after customisation too. It is truly amazing.
Gnome needs far too many extension for me to be usable. And so I avoid it.
Cinnamon is great too, but it’s in the middle. If I don’t want to use Wayland, at that point there is xfce.
trinity because it’s lighter than almost everything else while having more features than almost everything else
Last update 27th Oct 2024? Trinity is still kicking around? I have so many questions…
Will there be Wayland support?
What is the purpose of it?
Does it even use later versions of Qt?
How lightweight is it (how much RAM and CPU does it use on a cold boot?)?
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I’m really not sure what they’re planning for Wayland at the moment (if anything), but one of the plus sides is that it isn’t too dependent on it’s default window manager, and I was even able to run most parts of it via XWayland under Wayfire with only a handful of issues that probably wouldn’t be too hard to resolve in the future (e.g. multiple desktops on kdesktop).
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Initially, I suppose it was just to provide an option for people who weren’t happy with KDE 4. These days, I’d consider the main benefits to be a nice way to have an old school UX for those who prefer that, and excellent performance on aging hardware. (In some ways the UX still outdoes KDE 5/6 IMO, such as TDE’s version of Konqueror being a much more capable file manager than the current versions, or the highly configurable power manager.)
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It uses a fork of Qt3, TQt.
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This will vary from distro to distro, but I have it using just a little over 100 MB of RAM on a cold boot with MX on my ThinkPad X200T, and practically no idle CPU usage.
Impressive! I’d like to use this moment to apologise for my assumptions as I’ve only used Trinity once, and assumed that it was unmaintained, given the old school UX and finding it was a fork of KDE3. I guess I was mistaken, and I’m happy that I was wrong! The more, the merrier!
Yeah, they continue to add new features that weren’t present in KDE 3 too, in a manner that remains true to KDE 3’s iconic look and feel. They post about these new features on their Mastodon, and write in depth about them in their release notes.
They also port and maintain old community-made themes, mods, and applications as official packages, which is something I really appreciate even though I didn’t use it back then.
My favorite thing about using *Nix and FOSS in general is that we can not only preserve it’s history through forks, but immortalize it. If you want to keep the experience and workflow you enjoy, you simply can. Using Linux with Trinity is like having Windows XP but it’s still receiving (and will for the foreseeable future) actually good feature updates, security updates, bugfixes, and access to current software and hardware.
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My desktop environment of choice would be XFCE. It’s simply easy to configure while not giving me choice fatigue like KDE does. Also I don’t like Qt for some reason.
GNOME is great but I find their extensions to be super clunky sometimes. Some of them even break in between updates. The main selling point of gnome (for me) is the minimal look and feel, extensions kind of ruin that a little bit.
Don’t get me wrong plasma and Gnome are wonderful DEs but XFCE provides a simple and balanced desktop IMO. The only thing that’s missing is full Wayland support.
P.S : Anyways most of the time I would be running a window manager instead of a DE, my current favourite Wayland window-manager is Labwc because it gives me openbox vibes.
i3. Superb for keyboard-driven environment. Ultra fast, so responsive and configurable. The best.
Depends on the computer I run. On fast computers (more than 5,000 passmark cpu points), i use gnome on whatever distro. On mid-speed computers (1000 to 5000 points), I use linux mint with cinnamon. On very old computers (400-1000), I use debian with XFce.
I actually found Cinnamon to be more resource intensive than Gnome on most computers.
Not my experience here, especially if extensions are used on gnome, but I hear you. I find xfce to be lightest. Sure, there are other more light wms, but they’re not modern and suitable for daily use.
After trying mostly everything, I always come back to my “custom desktop”: (openbox + xfce4-panel + thunar + xfce4-terminal + dunst) … for the last 15 years or so. It doesn’t get in the way, is fast AF, it takes very very little ram/cpu (4.5 Mb !!) and it has everything I need (even tiling via keyboard). It’s VERY customizable and it does as I tell. No crashes, no weirdeness. It just works. I will probably move to labwc in a future, just because… wayland. And now I’m about to use it on a steam deck… it’s gonna be fun.
Reminds me of how lxqt uses openbox for its windowing.
AFAIK, lxde uses openbox, and lxqt uses xfwm.
Lxqt uses openbox, I tested it, and am pretty sure lxde ships its on window manager.
I should have said I was speaking about debian. Other distros may use different defaults.
Ohh
Same. Didn’t know about labwc, will look imto it when I switch to Wayland someday!
Did you come off a Crunchbang distro as well? 🙂
I started playing with linux (ubuntu and a macbook [I know, the worse combo possible]) around 2006 or so. I tried some linux distros before, but just for fun, never as a daily driver. I come from the times of DOS and even a little before that (amiga 500, commodore 64, spectrum…[I feel old]) . After some time with ubuntu, I found out ubuntu was bloated and quite slow, so I gave debian a try and never came back after that. Among others, I tried crunch and bunsen and while I liked them, I got a few ideas from them and applied them to my vanilla debian installs. I usually install debian testing netinst and a script I made to install/customize packages/apps/etc. A debian install (testing netinst from usb pendrive) from 0, usually takes me about 15 min.
I’ve been testing out arch since I got a steamdeck as a replacement for my main PC a few weeks ago but I don’t think it’s gonna stick. I’ve got a vanilla arch install running but it’s way too cumbersome to reinstall/maintain it. I have to say, arch feels lighter. I will probably take another look at it sometime.
Wayland is neeeeeaaaaar!. LabWC is the closest to openbox I’ve found. I just hope it is as snappy and stable as openbox is always been. The config is pretty similar and the way it works (as little as I’ve tried it) is also quite similar.
About eyecandy and so, I have to say KDE and Gnome looks better everytime I take a look at them, but I feel like I have to be waiting for them to complete the tasks I ask of them, they don’t feel as “immediate” as openbox (KDE is getting there) and since I don’t use a compositor, games always run as expected (I’m talking X11 only). I’ve read about KDE/xfce running great so many times, but I had microstutters in games and or less avg FPSs while gaming, and switching to openbox just fixed that. I found out that disabling compositing in xfce also fixed that… but in that case I’d just rather go the openbox way. Openbox/lxde/lxqt can be pretty/ok/nice too:
About the “desktop” concept, I just need a panel, a file manager and a terminal, all the applets KDE has feel redundant, slow and way too much windows>8-alike. I like windows 98 functionality better (do as I say, let me alone, don’t pester me with notifications and applets and crap everywhere). For example, I have always hated the “safe remove drive” applet from windows/kde and so on. I just go to thunar, click on the eject icon close to the drive… and done.
Sorry for the long post, and of course this is my own experience, to each their own…etc. Just use what you like/works for you and mix it however you like (one of the best things linux has).
Excuse my english (not my mother language) and I’m quite sleep deprived.
xfce4. Stable as hell. X11. Can move windows around using just some keypresses.
XFCE4 ! Stable, simple and EndeavourOS’ design is top notch !
However there are some glitches from time to time. Nothing to serious but when I use Lutris + Wine my desktop bar does some wired shit.
Also when coming back from sleep I have to “pkill xfce4-session”. Though I’m not totally sure it’s an xfce issue…this could also be Nvidia or X11 related… Didn’t dived to deep.
GNOME because it’s the only good option that looks modern and has proper development. Excuses of KDE fanboys that GNOME team makes weird decisions are not accepted.
They do make some strange choices. But yeah, I agree. Also, on Gnome, everything else feels a bit rough around the edges.
I like both for different reasons. I’m hoping Cosmic will be a good blend of features from both, once it’s ready for the general public
how about the other non big desktops (eg, mate,cinnamon,budgie,lxqt,etc)
Mate, lxqt and even xfce look very old. I know they can’t have fancy effects but I think it’s weird they don’t come with a modern theme. They could make them look at least like Cinnamon. Even Windows 10 didn’t have rounded corners and looked great, with or without blur. Simplicity can look good imo.
Cinnamon is great but it’s GTK3 and a little bit older in terms of design (though it’s more sane than whatever the new trends are so it’s not bad but just not my thing).
Budgie isn’t a very big project so idk how consistent it is (it’s something I care about a lot). Though I think I never tried it myself.
But actually I don’t hate all of that projects. I just like GNOME and it works so so so well for me. My troll behavior towards other DEs is just a joke inspired by “Mii beta” YouTube channel. Btw KDE has performance, even though it’s more than feature-rich. That’s impressive.
oh okay ig its satire, ik mii beta bro shills GNOME lol.
Well not sure if I can call it satire because I think libadwaita is simply the best (and not MacOS stuff because it’s a bit bloated).
Gnome and Cosmic. Gnome 'cause of simplicity and Cosmic because of Rust.
!I am a Rust programmer and I love this language!<
KDE Plasma. I like having a familiar start menu and keyboard shortcuts
