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Seems like giving the non shit-hole states to Canada would make everyone happier.
Let’s call it “Greater America”
Greater Canada
In this timeline, Canada getting invaded is definitely on the bingo card. The future is absolutely going to shit.
They’ve stopped asking if they should invade Mexico and have moved on to how much should they invade Mexico. This timeline is terrible
Where would the US be without a perpetual war in a desert?
It’s basically a national tradition at this point.
Or, dissolve the United States and create an EU like union of North American nation states in its place.
I give it a year before red states beg to be part of a blue country. Most of them can’t support themselves without money from other states.
Something tells me the last thing diehard MAGAs want is another California.
I think Canada has started catching our cancer, unfortunately.
If someone told you that you currently pay $6,551 per person to receive completely covered full healthcare, and if you become a state your healthcare goes up to $12,555 per person and you will have to pay for your appointment, the first $5,000 before anything is covered and if the issue is bad enough you will pay the overhead. Also drugs prices are way higher, so get ready for those as well.
Would you vote for that?
those numbers are 2022 Canada/U.S. per capita costs for healthcare. Doesn’t include the private sector costs added in for the U.S.
WAIT, that doctor isn’t in your network, sorry… you went to the wrong emergency room. I know you were unconscious but have fun sorting out which surgeons, MRIs, equipment, room fees, ambulance fees, personal trainers were covered.
Ontarians and Albertans are already voting for Conservatives to dismantle their healthcare, and Canadians are about to vote in the furthest right Conservative federal government ever. As a wise man once said, people like Coldplay and voted for Hitler. You can’t trust people.
I really must not know enough about Coldplay… Lol. Straight up there with Hitler… Shit. And here I just thought they played music like Coheed and Cambria. Then again I can’t name any of their songs either.
Would you vote for that?
That all depends on what some hacky wannabe-comedian meathead douchebag says about it between ads on his podcast. /s
Would you vote for that?
I’m afraid that’s a trick question these days. I thought that was all pretty well handled up till this last election…
I’m not sure how that’s relevant to my comment
Our cancer would include that. So if Canadians had our cancer they would vote for that. Which I don’t think they have fallen that far.
I said it’s spreading, not that it’s already equal.
Yeah, right wing crazy seems to be the United States number one export.
I bet the number of Canadians willing to give up their healthcare plans is far less than 50% for our fucked up system.
Canada becoming a state would immediately see the Republican party removed from office, and the Majory vote being far further in favor of health care reform. Aka they would vote in only senators and Congressmen who supported it. Now if they wanted to make sure the 39m people didn’t have more say than Texas, they would have to divide it into multiple states. This would create more senator positions as well, meaning more non Republican senators who block health care reform.
Not only would Canada never support it, but it is clear that Trump never knows what the fuck he is on about.
Don’t assume Canadians are well informed. The right-wing media and the Conservatives lie to Canadians too, and people believe what they’re told. In Ontario they have voted in, and voted back in, a government that is determined to dismantle public healthcare, and the voters seem not to even notice. At the federal level the Conservatives dishonestly blame the federal government for issues they know are provincial government matters, and people go along with that too and are all set to elect the Conservatives despite their having no positive proposals or intentions. Voters are easily duped.
True, the media has a lot more power than people give it credit for, and the majority is not owned by the working class
Canadian media is almost wholly right wing and owned by billionaires. Where it isn’t (e.g. CBC) the Conservatives are intent on shutting it down.
Getting some strong Fallout vibes from this story.
What about Greenland? Don’t let that dream die, Donny!
The right is absolutely pissing its pants about this.
Cost of new housing goes waaay up. Canada is lumber.
Ew no thank you
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That mexico threat doesn’t mean a war, but if you threaten another nato country, you’re gonna have your ass handed to you.
If the USA invaded Canada, Canada would not be able to defend itself. Thankfully that idea has been unthinkable for a long time, but as the USA goes fascist, climate change kicks in and the water starts to run out, I could see that changing one day.
If the US attempted to invade another NATO country, the weight of NATO would come down. The US is not in a position to take over allied countries.
Mexico, on the other hand, would be like Russia invading Ukraine.
None of this is good for the people.
What is the weight of NATO without the USA? Especially against the USA?
Everyone’s economy would collapse and we would all starve.
i’m not certain trump is capable of understanding something like that
Yes, that’s why us sane people in Europe would have preferred Biden. Better the devil you know.
Sanctions
You shure ‘bout that?
There’s a comic book based on that:
All that snow and ice up there will melt, Canada will have plenty of water to hold over the US’ head.
That’s what I mean: the USA will be coming for Canada’s water.
Start building dams?
20% of the fresh water in the world (not counting ice blocks) is in the Great Lakes, which divide the U.S. and Canada, fresh water I doubt would be a worry for either.
Aren’t most of the middling to good lakes increasingly polluted to the point where they’re not suitable for drinking water, though?
I mean I know I’ve pissed in the St. Lawrence dozens of times, but I’m sure that’s flushed out by now.
I’m sure there is some pollution, but it has to be easier to sanitize that water than to start with ocean water.
That’ll be a great first line for the history book chapter “Beginning of the Water Wars”
Trump would cut off his nose to spiderface.
Ignore him, until he does anything
Even so, it feels like Canada has to reconceive the purpose and scale of its military defenses. The USA can’t be trusted to always be an ally.
Definitely stop buying their weapon systems. Support EU and diversify
I’m going to prepare for invasion waaaayyyy before they do anything
Fox News is saying that the tariff “threat” has made Canada and Mexico to act on stopping the illegal immigration happening at the borders and that’s how Trump gets the job done, even before he is in office. I have not fact checked so I don’t know how much of it is a coincidence and how much the Canadian and Mexican government are freaking out about drug and illegal immigration control.
Mexico has already acted to reduce illegal immigrants entering the USA over its border by 76%, while Trump was lying about the problem being worse. None of it has anything to do with Trump, and he’s just making effective cooperative action more difficult with his bluster and threats.
Illegal immigration into the USA from Canada has increased but the numbers remain very small. Trump is lying when he claims it’s a big problem.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/illegal-migration-canada-united-states-1.7320623
Fox Entertainment doesn’t know shit about the acts of Canada, Mexico’s, or even the U.S. actions pertaining to drugs or immigration. Theyve proven it over and over. They just gargle whatever bullshit they get the most money for and try not to puke while word vomiting it at the populous.
The only truth would be that fox is changing the narrative. No matter what actually happens.
Oh god, please dont give Danielle Smith any ideas
They could take each province and make them states. Don’t think that will work out for Republicans