It is only in the sense that third-world countries that rely on it just freely give it out rather than making it prescribed. Case and point being that it’s freely available in Mexico, as linked above.
Humans require a prescription, in the US, anyway.
US only accounts for ~350 million of the many BILLIONS of people on the planet. We’re talking about a drug that has been taken by BILLIONS and you can’t shut the fuck up about the 350 million Americans?
It is labeled for horses primarily. Approved for and customarily used on animals first.
Initial research RELEASED the drugs for animals first… Mostly because it’s easier to get approval for animal drugs than human drugs.
However, this drug has been trialed to humans since ~1980 (Animals is credited as “late 70’s”, but “was initially introduced as a commercial product for Animal Health in 1981”). So really no difference in timelines here comparatively… But you go ahead and keep lying about shit. If your qualifier that it’s “animal first” is that it was trialed in animals mere months before it was trialed in humans, then sure, you’re right. But I’m taking issue with that. That’s bullshit and you should know it. And yes, it’s also normal for human trials to last much longer than animal ones. Thus why it was on trials for years.
Where’s all these people when Ketamine is mentioned saying “no you can’t use it in hospitals on people because Vetaket exists” huh? It’s wild watching the world completely accept that Ketamine or Amoxicilin etc can be used on animals and humans, but then be completely propagandized that this one particular dewormer only works on equidae even though it’s been used as a human dewormer since its existence. Sure it does fuck all against covid and claims to the contrary should be shot down but “HoRsE” isn’t it, “viruses aren’t worms” is better.
When we are talking about its efficacy against covid, it is utterly irrelevant whether Ivermectin has some other use. For covid, it is a quack remedy.
Now, just to spell it out even more for you and some others who keep sidestepping the point:
Use of any treatment that is not efficacious for a given condition risks diverting people from the use of treatments that are efficacious. That means those people will be at higher risk of sickness and death, since the treatment they are taking doesn’t work.
A treatment that is efficacious for some entirely different purpose is still not efficacious for some other condition, unless and until it is proven so by research.
Whether that different purpose involves horses, people or fucking marmosets is irrelevant. We’re not talking about that. We’re talking about a particular condition that has nothing to do with the on-label use.
So it’s not clear to me what you are struggling with here. OTHER USES ARE IRRELEVANT TO THE QUESTION OF WHETHER IT WORKS FOR THE PURPOSE ACTUALLY BEING DISCUSSED. End of.
To me it’s literally akin to “Corn is used in cow feed” therefore “Corn is only for cows”.
It’s asinine and stupid.
Now the clarification could be that “Lesser grade corn is used in cow feed” therefore “you shouldn’t eat cow feed”.
But that’s never the claim anytime I see “horse dewormer ivermectin” and never has any evidence been provided that it’s any different quality or type of ivermectin in the horse paste. Even if that difference in “quality” would even matter to begin with especially since the drug has been open marketed for so long and it’s production commoditized so much. I wouldn’t doubt for a moment that the same fucking factory pumps out both pill and whatever gets mixed into the horse paste… probably just the original pill product in powder form.
It is only in the sense that third-world countries that rely on it just freely give it out rather than making it prescribed. Case and point being that it’s freely available in Mexico, as linked above.
US only accounts for ~350 million of the many BILLIONS of people on the planet. We’re talking about a drug that has been taken by BILLIONS and you can’t shut the fuck up about the 350 million Americans?
Initial research RELEASED the drugs for animals first… Mostly because it’s easier to get approval for animal drugs than human drugs.
However, this drug has been trialed to humans since ~1980 (Animals is credited as “late 70’s”, but “was initially introduced as a commercial product for Animal Health in 1981”). So really no difference in timelines here comparatively… But you go ahead and keep lying about shit. If your qualifier that it’s “animal first” is that it was trialed in animals mere months before it was trialed in humans, then sure, you’re right. But I’m taking issue with that. That’s bullshit and you should know it. And yes, it’s also normal for human trials to last much longer than animal ones. Thus why it was on trials for years.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3043740/
So once again… kindly fuck off with the lying about the medicine. You’re better than that.
Berate the moron, not the functional medicine.
Where’s all these people when Ketamine is mentioned saying “no you can’t use it in hospitals on people because Vetaket exists” huh? It’s wild watching the world completely accept that Ketamine or Amoxicilin etc can be used on animals and humans, but then be completely propagandized that this one particular dewormer only works on equidae even though it’s been used as a human dewormer since its existence. Sure it does fuck all against covid and claims to the contrary should be shot down but “HoRsE” isn’t it, “viruses aren’t worms” is better.
When we are talking about its efficacy against covid, it is utterly irrelevant whether Ivermectin has some other use. For covid, it is a quack remedy.
Now, just to spell it out even more for you and some others who keep sidestepping the point:
Use of any treatment that is not efficacious for a given condition risks diverting people from the use of treatments that are efficacious. That means those people will be at higher risk of sickness and death, since the treatment they are taking doesn’t work.
A treatment that is efficacious for some entirely different purpose is still not efficacious for some other condition, unless and until it is proven so by research.
Whether that different purpose involves horses, people or fucking marmosets is irrelevant. We’re not talking about that. We’re talking about a particular condition that has nothing to do with the on-label use.
So it’s not clear to me what you are struggling with here. OTHER USES ARE IRRELEVANT TO THE QUESTION OF WHETHER IT WORKS FOR THE PURPOSE ACTUALLY BEING DISCUSSED. End of.
To me it’s literally akin to “Corn is used in cow feed” therefore “Corn is only for cows”.
It’s asinine and stupid.
Now the clarification could be that “Lesser grade corn is used in cow feed” therefore “you shouldn’t eat cow feed”.
But that’s never the claim anytime I see “horse dewormer ivermectin” and never has any evidence been provided that it’s any different quality or type of ivermectin in the horse paste. Even if that difference in “quality” would even matter to begin with especially since the drug has been open marketed for so long and it’s production commoditized so much. I wouldn’t doubt for a moment that the same fucking factory pumps out both pill and whatever gets mixed into the horse paste… probably just the original pill product in powder form.