I think we’re misunderstanding each other. You’re using combative and defensive language and then assuming that I’m allowing someone to berate me. That’s different than what happens. There needs to be open communication about how your partner makes you feel and what language they use. But coming at this from a punitive or paternal angle is just ick.
Your initial point is that the partner already expressed their point clearly and that’s the other partner (the man), that didn’t listen.
To which I responded that the onus is on the pissed person to communicate well the issue, not the person listening (assuming that both are acting on good faith).
It’s easy to say " I am mad because of X" regardless of the situation, instead of playing mind games. Or “I am mad about X and I don’t know how to express it”. Simple, respectful and a starting point to resolve the conflict.
This is not coming from a paternal or punitive angle, this is just proper communication. If you can’t express why you are upset to someone and act like the meme, this is not acceptable and respectful.
If they can’t do that, they can go take a five and come back after. It’s the same thing we teach children.
Is the definition of paternal.
You’re asking for a rational response from an irrational act. People don’t say “Oh I seem to have stubbed my toe and it pains me” they say FUCK THAT HURT.
You sound like you’re trying to manage someone’s emotions with your language and posturing. Which is the exact opposite of what will deescalate a situation.
I think we’re misunderstanding each other. You’re using combative and defensive language and then assuming that I’m allowing someone to berate me. That’s different than what happens. There needs to be open communication about how your partner makes you feel and what language they use. But coming at this from a punitive or paternal angle is just ick.
Your initial point is that the partner already expressed their point clearly and that’s the other partner (the man), that didn’t listen.
To which I responded that the onus is on the pissed person to communicate well the issue, not the person listening (assuming that both are acting on good faith).
It’s easy to say " I am mad because of X" regardless of the situation, instead of playing mind games. Or “I am mad about X and I don’t know how to express it”. Simple, respectful and a starting point to resolve the conflict.
This is not coming from a paternal or punitive angle, this is just proper communication. If you can’t express why you are upset to someone and act like the meme, this is not acceptable and respectful.
Is the definition of paternal.
You’re asking for a rational response from an irrational act. People don’t say “Oh I seem to have stubbed my toe and it pains me” they say FUCK THAT HURT.
You sound like you’re trying to manage someone’s emotions with your language and posturing. Which is the exact opposite of what will deescalate a situation.
This is not the definition of paternal at all.
I am not asking for a rational response, I am asking for a respectful response, and my partner expects the same from me.
It’s fine if my partner is angry or sad or anything else, but it’s not okay to make you feel bad for a genuine question and trying to help.
It is possible to be emotional and respectful but what you described in your OP isnt that.