FAFO! Big time. Bunch of idiots. They do not understand that Israel has the USA by the balls and this has been going on since the USS Liberty.
Finally I can stop wondering how the protest voters handle aiding and completing a genocide while claiming to have any sense of morality at all.
They ignore it because they never cared, that’s IT! NOTHING ELSE. ITS ALWAYS SOMEONE ELSES FAULT BECAUSE OF THEIR NARCISSISM.
Prrotest votersDemocratic partyYou think they actually gave a shit.
Palestine was just the latest version of “The Issue”
Someone they can make their entire personality to make themselves look good.
Good thing they got rid of Genocide Joe to pave the way Death dealing Donny
Maybe the political party should have conformed to the pressure of the people who vote in its party. Just saying.
Dems would rather lose than appeal to what americans actually want.
Also funny to imagine protest voters being powerful enough to sway the election but not powerful enough for Dems to listen to
Dems would rather lose than appeal to what americans actually want.
Lol. If we changed our foreign policies to win elections every 4 years we’d have exactly ZERO allies.
Israel is America’s most important ally in the middle east. We ain’t giving that up for a single election.
ally
America doesn’t have allies, we have vassal states and economically enforced consrcripts lol.
Why do you think all these 3rd world countries want BRICS to actually fly? They’re tired of being held hostage with USD.
I mean they straight up declared themselves police of the world in the 90s after the USSR fell. And we all know the police definitely aren’t just some systemically corrupt protectors of the wealthy.
There is no reality in which America jeopardizes its relationship with its most important ally in the middle east.
Simply not an option.
So now we get to watch Dipshit Donny give Netanyahu free reign to turn Palestine to dust.
But if you’re implying that Dems should have lied like Republicans lie and told their constituents that they’d stop supporting Israel in order to get re-elected, then yeah, they absolutely should have done that to prevent what we’re about to experience.
Israel is not an ally to the US.
Allies don’t need to spend millions in donations to Congress and presidental candidate.
Allies don’t launch and support campaign to attack (anti-apartheid) protesters and candidates.
Allies, don’t attack US military and blame it on Arab.
Allies don’t protect pedophile and refuse to sign a extradition agreement.
Coworker: “I hate trump, he should never be president!” Me: “So you’re voting Harris?” Coworker: “I don’t know if we’re ready for a WoMaN president”
Asking for a friend, where is the nearest cliff? He would like to go jump off of it.
If only they’d put this much effort into getting one person to change her mind on the issue, instead of trying to get 10 million people to change their morals.
It appears especially ghoulish now after it came out that even her campaign’s polling showed that it was a losing position.
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Morals are morals, but they shouldn’t be completely uncompromising
In this case we had the status quo on one side and on the other, someone who was itching to throw the dial to 11 across the board.
At this point, any blood spilled as on their hands just as much as the DNC.
What status quo was there when Dems allow the rollback of everything even when they’re in power without even the suggestion of a fight? Unless you mean the status quo of everything continually getting worse under either party’s admin.
the status quo of everything continually getting worse under either party’s admin.
I always vomit a little in my mouth when I see comments like this.
Completely unaware of things like Dems providing cheap healthcare to vulnerable people (Obamacare) and lowering the cost of prescription medicine, and banning medical debt from showing up on credit reports, etc etc etc.
Only someone completely unaware of everything going on around them would state that the status quo for Dems is everything getting worse. Paying attention to the smallest degree destroys the lazy take that both parties are the same.
Yeah. You’re right honestly, it was too much to ask the Democrats to stop funding and arming a genocide. It’s not their fault at all, no sir no way. It’s the fault of the Palestinian Americans who refused to vote for people committing genocide against their communities.
Youre so smart. So principled. You know exactly who’s fault this situation is. It’s those damn Palestinians not wanting to vote for people arming genocide against them. How dare they.
The democrats had no choice. They HAD to keep committing genocide against Palestine. Poor Joe, he felt so bad for the Palestinians whenever he signed off on the next missile shipment to Israel. :( He even shed a little tear each time. The poor boy he just had no choice he had to keep arming genocide. He really felt so awful about it the whole time 😔 he’d sometimes even forget that it was happening at all and then remember and feel bad all over again.
It’s so normal that you blame the Palestinian Americans who wouldn’t vote for people arming the genocide of their people. Yup. There’s NOTHING the Democrats could’ve done differently. You should just keep on defending them forever. You know what, you should do one even better and support them as they continue to slide to the right. Instead of fighting for the party to change, you should continue to blindly support them even as they support the indiscriminate slaughter of starving Gazan children.
I should hope the /s isn’t needed here. I’m so fucking tired.
It’s the fault of the plaestinian Americans who refused to vote for people committing genocide against their communities.
You seem to be ignoring the fact that by doing so they made the situation WAY worse. Like a kid that gets mad and just ends up making things worse for themselves.
There is no reality in which the U.S. gives up Israel as its most important ally in the Middle East.
So the options were to minimize the damage, or go wholesale on letting it get worse. They chose the latter. Not very smart.
But hey, at least they can feel vindicated in their heart of hearts as they watch Palestine reduced to ash from the comfort of their homes in America.
Yeah mhm you’re so right. Demanding that the party that’s supposed to be progressive stops committing acts of genocide against their people was so childish of them. How dare they. Yup. It’s totally not the fault of the democratic party for continuing to commit genocidal acts, nope no not at all never they’re always in the right, actually. We really need to defend the poor leaders of the democratic establishment 😔 they only had a whole 13 months to stop committing acts of genocide by arming and funding genociders. Those damn Palestinians, it’s their fault that the democratic party had to keep committing genocide against them. If only they hadn’t complained so much about being genocided. 😡
/s though again I should hope it isn’t necessary
Yeah. I don’t think the democratic party would have stopped arming the Israeli military if they had won the election. There is no evidence of that whatsoever. Gaza is so utterly destroyed it is hard to comprehend.
It is extremely gross of you to blame the outcome of the election on a minority of a minority ethnic group who refused to vote for people who were actively involved in committing genocide against their community. That’s just the most wildly inhumane response to this situation possible. Nah, it was and continues to be the fault of the democratic leadership who committed themselves both to genocide and to a move to the right. You might as well become a Trump supporter if you want to blame minorities for everything. They hate Palestinians, too. You’d be right at home.
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It isn’t needed because lemmy is literally full of the type of idiots who will never understand not sucking democrat dick doesn’t mean you’re automatically gobbling the conservatives, so they don’t let a simple thing like sarcasm cloud their godlike omniscient knowledge of society. Your /s is not needed like a cherry wouldn’t need to be placed on top of an ice-cream in order for the lemmy flies to wait for it to be eaten and shat out in order to pounce on the feces and gorge themselves. They would do it anyway, it’s in their nature.
Dem cheerleaders are blue maga. Nothing the Dems do are ever part of the problem; it’s always someone else’s fault.
It wasn’t non-voters who forced the Dems and Biden to do the following:
- For his first official act, Biden fought with his own party to prevent regular people from getting an already promised $600 check; completely ignoring the fact no one expected any PPP loans to be repaid.
- Pulled a complete 180 on immigration, successfully building even more of the border wall and deporting more people than Trump.
- Refusing to even entertain the idea of stopping Israel’s genocide in Gaza, even at the known expense of voters.
- Declared the Covid-19 pandemic over by simply no longer testing for it, despite it continuing to overwhelm hospitals and kill people, all so that people could be forced back into work.
- Ripped pandemic era support away from citizens that was responsible for nearly eliminating childhood poverty and food insecurity; forcing people back into $7.25 an hour minimum wage jobs with no benefits.
- Refused to do anything about the increasing violence and state hostility towards queer people, especially in red states.
- Scolded to constituents for not giving Biden enough credit because they insisted the economy was great (but only for the wealthy.) They ignored that inflation (caused solely by corporate price gouging they refused to challenge) grew more than wages. Sure, wages began to outpace inflation, but total inflation since the start of the pandemic is still higher than wage growth in the same period.
- Made student loan forgiveness a means-tested application process that they then sat on for two months, instead of immediately clearing balances and destroying documents, as if begging SCOTUS to block them.
- Doing absolutely nothing to restrict the unchecked presidential powers they worked with the GOP to expand for the last several decades, even as the threat of a second, even more overtly fascist Trump administration became more and more likely.
- Dicked around for 2 years not taking the prosecution against Trump seriously and making this entire ordeal a possibility in the first place.
This election was entirely the fault of the Democratic leadership. They failed. All blue maga does is try to deflect blame from them while they continue to screw all of us.
Dem cheerleaders are blue maga.
Nah.
Personally, I’m someone who accepts that for the foreseeable future only two parties matter and has been paying attention for multiple decades and actually bothered to look up both party’s voting history and know, as a fact, that Dems frequently vote in favor of the middle/lower classes, that our economy is always healthier under them, and that our rights are more secure.
So when it comes down to voting I always champion them because the only other viable option is fucking awful in comparison and I’m not stupid enough to waste my vote on a fantasy scenario that simply won’t happen.
That’s a lot of words to say “nuh uh!” while refuting literally nothing. Blue maga
Why would you even bother posting this dipshit response?
You’ve added nothing to the conversation other than to confirm you’re incapable of understanding basic concepts.
Posting the words “blue maga” in and of itself is a condemnation of your lack of intelligence.
Look, you helped israel genocide palestine.
You WON, you got what you wanted.
Stop trying to weasel out of your responsibility.
You WON, you got what you wanted.
This is like yelling at a geologist after they warned about an earthquake.
No one wanted what the Dems were offering that’s why they lost.
We told them so.
^ The entirety of the DNC’s losing platform.
Yeah, but, we literally told them so.
Blame the DNC if you want if it makes you feel better.
We told them so and they still made a stupid decision. That makes them dumber than the DNC.
See this doesn’t really work when they are the one’s that lost…
And yet they’re already trying to quadruple down on it.
Democrats are mentally incapable of even considering the possibility that their losing to Trump two out of the three times they’ve ran the exact same campaign and candidate is their own responsibility. No, it must be the *checks notes* people who wanted them to be a little more critical of killing Arabs who are responsible. Wonder who you’ll blame when Trump inevitably runs for a third term and you decide to copy/paste your campaign strategy and candidate because you’ve learned abso-fucking-lutely nothing. I’m betting “people who don’t worship trillionaires enough”, because we’ll have some by then.
Why are you so concerned with “protest voters”? If every third party vote went to Democrats, Harris still would have lost.
It’s way easier to blame a small amorphous group of people, but why don’t you focus on winning? Harris got 6 million fewer votes than Biden. Do you think all those people stayed home because of Palestine?
Take this energy and put it towards something useful. Ignoring all the facts so you can punch left is pathetic.
If every third party vote went to Democrats, Harris still would have lost.
Lol. This argument is so stupid.
Those fools voted not knowing if they would make the difference or not. And in other elections, it has.
They don’t get a pass because their idiocy ended up not being the deciding factor.
It’s more about the people who didn’t vote at all.
Isn’t that just non-voters? Not voting is viewed by literally everyone as “don’t care”, not a protest.
There were absolutely protest non-voters.
Foreign policy simply doesn’t decide elections in the US. I’m sure there were some protests non-voters, but the idea that it was a significant majority of the 6 million is far fetched.
Doesn’t matter. Even if they weren’t the deciding factor, they still contributed and were still idiots that deserve to be shamed.
Good luck with that buddy.
Those aren’t “protest voters”, are they?
Again, Harris got 6 *million" fewer votes than Biden and lost by 2 million votes. If you really believe that’s because of Palestine, then you should be asking Harris why she didn’t support Palestine.
But no reasonable person could think that Harris lost because of Palestine. So why is this such a big focus for liberals, instead of something that matters?
If winning in 2026 and 2028 doesn’t involve punching left, are you even interested?
They are if they choose not to vote in protest
Let me amend to say, I guess it depends on what your goal is. If your goal is to feel better about yourself & your political participation, then carry on. But if you want to get a Democrat elected, you need to stop acting like this.
It’s more about a trash system with trash candidates where most people’s votes don’t matter at all.
So deep rofl
How’s 3rd grade?
Why aren’t you? Tlwe just got several chunks of BAD news for palestine.
You really couldn’t pretend to care any less, huh?
“Don’t blame me, I voted for Kodos!”
