Senator Jeanne Shaheen just threw the minority leader under the bus.
Senator Jeanne Shaheen revealed that Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer knew the entire time about the plan for a few Democrats to capitulate to Republicans on the government shutdown.
Shaheen, one of the seven Democrats (and one independent) who dropped their demand for a guaranteed extension of Obamacare subsidies, spoke to Fox News’s Brian Kilmeade on Monday morning.
Aside from serving as further proof that the Democrats are failing to act as an opposition party in any meaningful way, Shaheen’s comments also reveal one of two possible scenarios. Either Schumer was scheming to end the shutdown behind the scenes, only pretending to be against it while pinning the blame on the eight people who aren’t up for reelection anytime soon, or he has no control over his party. Either way, it proves the need for Democrats to jettison the minority leader.
Remember everyone. Moderate Democrats in USA are Center-Right in World Politics. They might as well be 2 sides of the same coin
If you are a voter who wants real change put in progressives, or indpendents that actually lean left in World politics
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Huh? They have though. I don’t understand what you’re trying to say
I think he’s saying Mayo Pete runs for preserving the status quo?
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*European politics NOT “world politics”.
Not everyone is following the same trends and left/right are relative to the society in question.
We must always be extremely careful spreading Eurocentric notions as being “the world’s view” as the history of that type of thinking is extremely ugly.
Apologies, anything you would suggest for better format of talking about it?
Yes, I would use the term “European politics”. If that makes you go “wait that sounds weird”, then don’t make that comparison.
Sorry but this is a huge pet peeve of mine. Too many people assert that what is true mostly fir Western Europe is the case for all nations and that’s silly at best.
lol but you are wrong…
Immigration, social issues, criminal justice, social safety and healthcare.
Just because YOU think of Europe doesnt mean everyone is talking about the same thing as you…
Im not sure what you are trying to day here. Can you please clarify what you mean?
You assume that by talking about healthcare they were only talking about Europe but those are all of the policies the US Overton window is further right than the norm. It’s more like “Europe, most of South America, Oceania parts of Africa and Asia.”
So no not just European at all lol
Ok you did not correctly follow that discussion.
OP claimed the perspective they gave was “the world’s perspective”. I pointed out that take is really only in line with Western Europe as every nation is in different places and you cannot really say “the democrats are center left” because outside of developed Western European nations that claim makes zero sense. For example the democrats would not be center right in almost any African nation or most of Eastern Asia.
Just like there are a ton of Americans who do not see other’s perspectives there is a massive amount of people who equate what is true for Europe as to being true for all.
Nah, it’s really important to have external framing otherwise you start to accept the present Overton Window as just the way things are. Things like 32 of 33 developed western democracies don’t have the problems the US does with healthcare. Sure, those other countries aren’t the US, but that’s kind of the point, and still relevant to conversations about US healthcare.
But that’s a singular issue. It isn’t as if everyone agrees as to the role of the police or to what degree they may become violent and under which conditions. I would argue that is an issue that is more indicative of what a society’s views on power are than healthcare would be.
Right now the GOP would be extremely progressive in Iran. There’s no “world scale” that really works.
Would the GOP be extremely progressive in Iran?
I would suspect if the GOP was in Iran they would want to dismantle much of the State Welfare Organization which provides universal health insurance, including mental health and addiction treatment.
And even if we focus on Iran’s horrific, regressive LGBT policies, are you so confident that the majority of the GOP disagrees? The current Overton window does not allow Republicans to openly propose making gay marriage or being trans illegal, but it’s safe to say that’s what many of them want. It’s practically written in Project 2025.
And on foreign policy, the GOP would never stand for Iran’s cautious de-escalatory approach. When Israel attacks, the GOP would be braying for bloody revenge.
I don’t claim to be an Iran expert, but I feel like the GOP would be center right.
The current Overton window does not allow Republicans to openly propose making gay marriage or being trans illegal,
The GOP literally lost a case for the former yesterday.
Yes proposing the removal of Islamic theocrats to be replaced with people who lean towards theocracy but are not actively pushing for it would be progressive.
The GOP doesn’t want LGBT+ people immediately imprisoned whereas Iran does.
What de-escalatory policy do you have evidence for? Iran finances a lot of militias and terrorist/paramilitary groups that engage in violence regularly.
The GOP would be progressive for Iran.
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If there’s nobody in your area doing anything politically exciting, it’s not Run for Something’s fault. Individuals from all over the country choose to sign up with RfS. They’re not a touring group going around recruiting from some major cities, but not others.
Perhaps you need to spread the word about RfS locally? I mean if you really want local change, it can totally start with you.
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I live in Missouri a little over 30 minutes drive from St. Louis.
Even though Missouri is gerrymandered it can still happen. And if not then at least none of you will be alone because you will be connected to each other along with national, & international allies
Don’t have to go in person at first. They do meetings online/ phone calls/ etc. There are in person events but those are for after people are setup to get things done
Don’t waste your gas. First connect with them online, then meetup in-person. Ask them how you can get other people active too so in your area and nearby it makes it easier
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Go at it from multiple angles. There are many people in Missouri who will want to be on your side but first you gotta find them and learn how to do together
They should replace him with someone who has balls, like Melanie Stansbury.
The problem is we’ve heard that before, multiple times, for all the negative stunts he pulled, and yet he still sits on his Democratic throne…
Contact your senators and demand to vote to replace him.
Schummer doesn’t represent us.
He’s not up until the next elections.
But yes, the people should vote his ass out.
Remember Remember, the Chuck of November
Cowardis, treason, and plot. I see no reason why this cowardly treason should ever be forgot.
The Democrats need their version of Trump that promises to shake all of this bullshit up. Drain the swamp indeed. Different sides of the same coin, just one side has a bigger price tag and takes longer to threaten, coerce, and bribe. But make no mistake, we have ALL been abandoned and will need a complete reboot of this party to the point where we start to vocally primary our own reps. Shit, I might just have to run now and my vetting isn’t pretty but it’s better than what we have in place.
Many state and local seats in government run unopposed or have puppet candidates installed and funded by Republican donors, people who have no real capability to do politics and just rely on having a lot of money for posters, but would wither if debated about actual issues.
We just saw in New York you don’t need any of that shit, you just need be social and reassuring and have a message that you stick to and don’t let yourself get distracted.
My god so many candidates get distracted and ruin their own potential careers.
So Chuck Schumer knew this would Happy and Therefore PURPOSELY let People get Kicked off SNAP during the Holidays? GREAT! THAT"S my Type of Leader!
That’s the double whammy to me. It’s bad enough that we lost and got nothing for it, but we paid a huge price.
I don’t trust Schumer and the Dems on any of this so if they want to build trust they need to speak out now and start by calling for Schumer to step down.
Both can be true. Schumer can scheme and have no control. The Democratic Whip voted to end the shutdown. That should tell you everything.
Bingo. At this point I don’t care if he had a direct role in it or not, it’s still a total failure of leadership. The man has no ability to lead, just slogan (and really badly at that).
I don’t know guys, I’ve heard a lot people saying he’s totally not to blame since he himself voted against it (yes, seriously).
This is the game. This is how the game is played, everywhere, all over the world, at every level of government.
Of course he did.
His whip was publicly swaying traitors ahead of the vote. And all the “yes” votes are people who aren’t up next year or who are actively retiring. That is how they do stuff like this. Protect the traitors who can get re-elected and make the people getting their lobbyist payouts the bogeymen.
Democrats need to do more than just get rid of Schumer…
A bit of a “how do you eat an elephant” going on here.
agreed it’s kind of a… we need to get schumer out of the way, because he’s a large part of preventing us from doing anything else to clean up the party. He’s not the sole problem no… but he is probably one of the biggest supporters of many of the other problems.
There’s a interesting notion behind the name “Shaheen”, but I don’t think you can imply symbolism of a patriotic eagle when you’re literally part of the reason why the dems caved in.
At best this is a massive gamble with the absolute last of the dregs of goodwill anyone left of center has for th democratic party. I’m predicting a lot of frustration -signalling throwing of hands in the air and performative filibusters in Shumer’s future, and not much else.
New York Democrats: primary this piece of shit and get him out of the Senate. I don’t care if his gamble pays off, he shouldn’t be gambling with the future of our country against convicted fraudsters.
I wrote both of my Dem senators asking them, begging them, to hold elections on leadership. I’ve written Schumer’s office several times, begging him to step down and get the hell out of the way. I know it doesn’t do much (especially Schumer, as I’m not a constituent), if anything, but other than my vote, I have no leverage.
Well shit man, that’s more than what 99% of people do.
So which party is still fucking me over harder? Oh yeah, as always, Republicans. So I’m going to continue to vote against them
Voting for the gentler rapist isn’t the flex you think it is.
the gentler rapist
I like that. However, voting for the gentler rapist is the US electoral system, and if you don’t know that, then go learn the spoiler effect.
Until the electoral system changes, primarying for the gentlest rapist possible so we can vote for them is the only viable strategy.
The Republicans are the shady people who pull you into a dark alley and fuck you.
The Democrats are the people who see the Republicans fucking you in a dark alley, look concerned, and say they’ll “call for help in a few minutes”.
You should definitely do that. But also stay informed and help out in any efforts to primary these sellouts and help install real progressives at every level of the Democrat party.
IDK, it seemed pretty clear to me from the start that the Democrats would only hold out until about mid November. The just wanted to wait long enough for people to start seeing their insurance rates for next year. Less than actually wanting to fix the problem, they wanted people to remember who was fighting for when the 2026 election year starts.
