Discord is making a huge change that will enact age restrictions for all accounts until users verify their age with ID or face scans.
  • GreenKnight23@lemmy.worldEnglish
    13·
    23 小时前

    discord. the platform that has a huge pedophile problem? the platform that’s sympathetic towards conservative shitheads?

    that discord?

  • mickus@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    2·
    17 小时前

    I had just joined a discord run by the devsfor a nsfw game. I do wonder what they’ll do? They haven’t made any announcements as of yet but many in the chat are of course unwilling to hand over their id

  • Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    671·
    2 天前

    If the pushback on social media doesn’t get Discord to drop these plans, then I’ll just have to delete the app.

    Not caving to another app asking for Personally Identifiable Information (PII) only for this same data to be leaked months to years later.

    Society will do everything to protect children aside from making better parents.

    • WraithGear@lemmy.worldEnglish
      51·
      1 天前

      already making plans with my battle group t move to team speak 6, which is only an option because they now have screen sharing

        • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
          6·
          1 天前

          Or just get bought out. Discord was supposed to be the answer to Twitch getting gobbled up. Then Microsoft gobbled Discord.

          Does anyone seriously believe there’s an indie third party social media site immune to a multi-million (possibly even billion) dollar buyout offer? One that won’t go the way of TikTok and be legislatively forced into sale?

          • thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            1·
            8 小时前

            Does anyone seriously believe there’s an indie third party social media site immune to a multi-million (possibly even billion) dollar buyout offer? One that won’t go the way of TikTok and be legislatively forced into sale?

            federated platforms

            • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
              2·
              8 小时前

              Federation is easy. BlueSky is federated, ffs. You think Jack Dorsey would be shy about selling his Twitter knock-off a second time?

              • thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
                1·
                7 小时前

                Bluesky is poorly federated

                Lemmy is excellently federated:

                • Its users are split across many instances with no majority
                • Lemmy, PieFed, and other instance software exists, preventing anyone from seizing control of the network software
          • WraithGear@lemmy.worldEnglish
            5·
            1 天前

            i mean… i will pay the license for it, AND i have to self host it, so they have a monetary scheme that will delay the need for enshitification. but it’s 5$ or something, and reportedly has better audio quality, faster transfer rates, and lower overhead then discord. and because i am hosting it, i will have complete control over it and its white list

  • excral@feddit.orgEnglish
    381·
    2 天前

    My discord account is about 10 years old. Do they assume I created it as a 6 year old? Account age alone should be enough to verify I’m an adult with reasonable certainty.

    • ameancow@lemmy.worldEnglish
      14·
      1 天前

      They will have some kind of nebulously described “thing” that will monitor your browsing and chatting habits on discord and use that to decide your “implicit age” and I wish any of that was a joke or rumor.

      They won’t just ask for your face and ID, they are also admitting that AI or something is going to be literally watching you at all times to “determine your age.”

      Tell me again how we’re protecting kids? Where them Epstein prosecutions at? We save any kids yet? How about now?

    • dhork@lemmy.worldEnglish
      12·
      2 天前

      Legally, they can’t be sure you didn’t sell the account, even if the email address is the same.

      Not defending the policy here, it’s bullshit. But I’m simply pointing out that they have excuses to beat any logic you throw at them. Logic has nothing to do with it, so it can’t be beaten by logic either.

      • Anas@lemmy.worldEnglish
        12·
        2 天前

        Selling accounts is against the TOS, surely they can’t be liable if that’s the case.

    • rumba@lemmy.zipEnglish
      7·
      1 天前

      Naw, they assume they can tie all your conversations to some nexus realid and sell all your groups, likes, and dislikes for cash.

    • python@lemmy.worldEnglish
      121·
      2 天前

      Well no, what if you have a Benjamin Button situation going on and will be too young to use Discord in a year or two?They gotta cover all their bases.

  • Cris16228@lemmy.todayEnglish
    581·
    2 天前

    Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t they got a massive leak for gov IDs last year? And they still pushing this bs?! Hello?

  • cheesybuddha@lemmy.worldEnglish
    113·
    2 天前

    I’m actually pretty happy that Discord is killing itself. Far too many people use it as an official platform for stuff like help forums.

    Maybe lets go back to basic message boards that are actually searchable, etc.

    • nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.caEnglish
      14·
      2 天前

      Self-hosted options like Mumble also exist.

      Self-hosted is a pain to get started with but as everything enshittifies if will only get more important.

      • dev_null@lemmy.mlEnglish
        11·
        2 天前

        As someone who doesn’t use the voice chat feature of Discord, I am always confused when people suggest things like Mumble as an alternative.

    • I_Jedi@lemmy.todayEnglish
      2·
      1 天前

      Well there is that one nsfw forum that is VERY active. Said forum also provides a list of file hosters that have escaped enshittification.

      Those guys pirate the shit out of Japanese games but official nsfw game developers sometimes go there to advertise.

  • Aielman15@lemmy.worldEnglish
    269·
    2 天前

    Let’s protect the children by scanning everyone’s face and ID and uploading them to a server that’ll get hacked five years from now.

  • Pika@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    199·
    2 天前

    For ID scans, Discord says that documents “are deleted quickly.”

    Just a few months ago they had a data leak which proved that they were indeed /not/ deleting documents and ID’s like they had been claiming.

    Granted in that case it was mostly countries that force keeping that data but, I’m sick of companies lying and saying “lol yea we defo delete the data after”

    • thermal_shock@lemmy.worldEnglish
      52·
      2 天前

      I won’t even give hard drives when recycling a computer, I pull and smash myself. Last set of old drives I cut in half with bolt cutters.

      • moonpiedumplings@programming.devEnglish
        72·
        2 天前

        This is not truly foolproof. Data can still be recovered from the spinning metal platter since it can theoretically be removed and put into a recovery device, even in a broken state.

        Im addition to that, hard drives/ssd’s sometimes have small flash memory chips, from which data can sometimes be recovered.

        If you want it to actually be unrecoverable then you have to actually ensure all parts thay store data are truly deleted/wiped, which is more than just the core platter. Or just use encryption and throw away the key, since all data going through the tiny OS on these devices will be encrypted. Or just store them forever in a vault.

        • thermal_shock@lemmy.worldEnglish
          13·
          2 天前

          Bud, if you put that platter back together after I snipped it, you deserve every bit of data you get off it, 1000%

          • moonpiedumplings@programming.devEnglish
            42·
            2 天前

            It’s not that hard though. There are companies that offer data recovery as a service. If the value of the data on those drives exceeds the cost of those services then it becomes worth it to fish one of the drives out of the dumpster and take it there.

            • thermal_shock@lemmy.worldEnglish
              4·
              2 天前

              This is a very specialized job, your avg joe is not going to do it. Also, in the many years I’ve been in IT, I’ve never even seen a video of a platter reconstructed and get data off it.

    • blazeknave@lemmy.worldEnglish
      36·
      2 天前

      My friend is an exec there. After reading this thread bugged him to buy my software that would protect this vulnerability. They confirmed data/file never leaves the user’s device. Sounds pretty safe.

      • Goodeye8@piefed.socialEnglish
        14·
        2 天前

        You do know that it’s bullshit? Unless they’re incredibly incompetent they’re lying to you. If the data never leaves the client then all the checks are client-side, which means it’s relatively easy (compared to a server side check) to bypass those checks.

        • vithigar@lemmy.caEnglish
          1·
          1 天前

          For a while (maybe even still, I haven’t kept up with it) you could unlock paid features with a modded client, so they absolutely have a history of using client-side verification.

        • Orygin@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          1·
          2 天前

          Afaik the files exfiltrated were photos that the on device detection could not identify and were uploaded to verify server side. That would mean not all pictures are sent to the backend, and that corroborates why “only” 70k photos were stolen when discord has millions of users verified.
          Of course you have to put your trust in a closed source system so best not to upload, but if true it’s still a far cry from openly lying about it. It’s probably explicitly stated in their ToS that they may upload the file if the verification fails client side.