• Jiral@lemmy.org
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    3 days ago

    I see, I did indeed misunderstand you.

    So you are arguing really for proper nuclear proliferation with Norway getting its own independent nuclear capabilities like France. The only small country having nuclear capabilities is Israel, and they surely pay a hefty price for it and are extremely dependend on the support of another major power nonetheless, probably more than Norway is dependent on France, even after this deal.

    If France renegades on that deal, the worst thing that happens to Norway is being in the situation form before that deal.

    Ukraine has no nuclear warheads and is bombing a nuclear power heavily (defending against its aggression), damaging a lot of its strategically important oil and gas industry btw. A nuclear deterrent is a strong power but it is not the only way to exert hard power, nor does the lack of having nuclear weapons make a country necessarily easy prey.

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      3 days ago

      Ukraine has essentially received materials and nuclear protection from the entire western world. The US has explicitly stated they will retaliate (well Biden did) if nuclear weapons are used. They are lucky they are white enough. They also just genuinely surprised the western world in the first two weeks, as it was assumed they would fall, given the country’s history of extreme corruption and multiple intelligence agencies presuming their lack of military capability would fail them long before Russia ran out of steam.

      While e.g. Norway is white, and notably less corrupt, there’s only so many times the entire western world can rally behind a country being attacked. If any multi-polar attack were to be launched but not turned nuclear, there’s very little that could be done for some of the victims. Some country would fail to be protected, and they would fail.

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        Nuclear protection for Ukraine, do you have any credible source for that claim? Materials and arms from other countries, hardly makes a case against your point that you have no army unless you have nuclear arms.

        Even if Biden said anything. Biden isn’t in power anymore and even with him it was far fetched to believe the US would risk nuclear war with Russia over Ukraine. This whole premise has become entirely absurd under Trump. Yet, the counter attacks against Russia have vastly intensified since Biden is out of office.

        Your racist classifications are not necessarily as central to foreign policy as you might believe.