• bionicjoey@lemmy.ca
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    1 year ago

    How is Google Play, which is easily circumnavigated with things like F-Droid and APKs, considered a monopoly and the Apple app store isn’t?

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      The Apple case was decided by a judge and this by a jury, which makes a big difference

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      At least in the EU Apple app store is considered a monopoly, and Apple is expected to allow third party stores during next year.

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        I’m curious how they manage a function like this differently between EU and the rest of the world.

        iOS 18.1 and iOS 18.1-EU?

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          GPS, mobile network tracking, IP, region the device is sold in (us iphones have a block of plastic where everyone else has a sim card slot), apple store region.

          Lot of possibilities

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              Also VPN, fake apple store region. If detected during download/install also RF-shielding to prevent GPS and mobile network (if download, also needs a wifi signal inside the shield to download at all).

              Lot of workarounds for lot of possible detections.

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      From what i read about it, Apple has a walled garden but charges a flat fee for everyone and has no special deals. Everyone pays the same and they make a little money off of the store but also the hardware sold.

      Whereas Google has been caught treating certain parties differently, such as Spotify, something called Project Hug, where they gave extra benefits to parties at risk of leaving the play store, among other unequal dealings.

      So the crux of the question is not about the monopoly itself, but the fact that Google is treating market players differently and throwing its weight around to influence the market to its advantage.

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        has no special deals.

        Spotify and Netflix technically have no special deal but bypass the fee and are not kicked. I would argue favoritism is like a special deal.

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      Because 90+% of people don’t know what fdroid is and can’t get many of the apps they need there.

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        Okay but just the existence of APKs and sideloading means options exist. That doesn’t make a monopoly in my mind

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        That doesn’t answer the question. Sure, in isolation, Android app ecosystem isn’t ideal. But it’s so so much better at allowing competition than the apple one.

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      You are off-topic. We are talking about in-app purchases percentage rates