• FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today
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      The Caveat is that it is permanent and irreversible for the average person with very few exceptions.

      EDIT: added “for the average person”

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        Another caveat is that it’s not allowed for men under 25 in my country (Sweden). “My body - my choice” only applies to one gender lol

        edit: Although, to be fair, sterilisation is also not allowed for women under 25. They do ofc have many more options though

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          Successful reversal meaning they managed to glue the tubes back together. Successful pregnancies are significantly lower afaik

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          Yeah, but how available are those clinics to the average person? I’ve never looked into it personally, but I assume travel is necessary and costs are out of pocket.

          • nickwitha_k (he/him)@lemmy.sdf.org
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            Absolutely a correct take, I’d say. I know that my insurance would cover it but this is the first time that I’ve EVER had insurance that would touch anything related to fertility (beyond female birth control) with a 10ft pole. I’d say that it’s fair to say that the average person in the US does not have access, mainly due to the awful level of “normal” for healthcare accessibility.

            I’ve looked into it recently, myself. I wanted to see if the snip was an option due to how hormonal birth control impacts by wife. With the desire to still have kids at some point, it’s not a sure enough thing currently and is not recommended for people like me (“if you’re looking into reversibility, it’s probably not for you”). When I last looked a decade ago, success rates were topping out around 60-70%. Advances in surgical technique and technology have really improved things though. If only something like vasalgel would actually see availability - I’m not confident though, after two decades of failure.

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      How was the recovery process? I keep meaning to do it (we’re done having kids), but we keep having trips or whatever, so excuses pile up.

      How soon could I be back doing active things? I have young kids, so “active” to me means roughhousing with the kids and whatnot.

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        When I did mine, I drove myself home and put a bag of peas on there for the afternoon. I was fine pretty much right away, but I think medical advice says wait 3 days before you do anything wild.

        Plus you have to ejaculate like 30 times in two weeks to clean out the pipes, but your sperm is still active so you can only do hand and mouth stuff. That was a pretty good two weeks.

        It’s literally so easy and the peace of mind is really nice especially if you’re impulsive as fuck like me.

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          I think medical advice says wait 3 days before you do anything wil

          My brother only waited 2 days because he felt like he was recovering well. He said everything felt great right up to the point he nutted. Then it was like someone punched him in the balls. He was like "oh yes… oh yes… OH YES… OH GOD NO!!!

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        My recovery was honestly pretty bad. I was bed-ridden for about 2 weeks, then 8-ish months of aching pain all day every day. Not actually sure when it finally cleared up, I just realized I hadn’t felt the pain in a while. My first nut was about a month after the procedure, and that was also a very unpleasant experience.

        My case is abnormal, but even more rare is the guys that continue to be in pain for the rest of their lives. Didn’t find out about that until I started digging deeper because of my persistent pain.

        That said, I still 100% recommend getting it done.

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          but even more rare is the guys that continue to be in pain for the rest of their lives

          EVEN AFTER REVERSING THE PROCEDURE

          Look, it’s SUPER rare. We still drive cars even though, using my state of California as an example, eight of us die on the roads every day.

          But…

          I could never forgive myself if my groin hurt thirty years from now because of a singular & highly-optional decision I made today.

          Same with LASIK - some have dry eyes forever afterwards. Nooooooo

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          My case is abnormal, but even more rare is the guys that continue to be in pain for the rest of their lives. Didn’t find out about that until I started digging deeper because of my persistent pain.

          Dang that sucks your urologist / surgeon didn’t let you know about this. Mine was very clear that though it is rare (was quoted 1% which seems kind high to me) he doesn’t recommend going through with the procedure if you have testicular pain in your day to day as it could be a risk factor for having permanent pain afterwards

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          Mine was rough too, about 6 months before I was normal.

          Not a single fucking regret

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            I’m so sorry, that’s horrid! I have multiple friends who came home with no pain, didn’t do cum for a few weeks, and basically didn’t even notice anything.

            That’s so fucking horrible, I wish you had a much better experience. At least you can dump in the gut eternally with no worries, though.

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          I knew a guy who didn’t respond to the local anesthesia, and could feel the whole thing, and his doctor didn’t believe him.

          Even he didn’t regret it.

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        Make sure you get your own pain medication ahead of time. Mine was apparently worse than the other replies, and the doctor being stingy about meds made it needlessly terrible.

        No I don’t otherwise do opiates. Doctors are just stingy because of the people who are on opiates.

        • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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          Good advice. I’ve never had surgery outside of wisdom teeth removal, and other than then, I’ve never used anything stronger than ibuprofen. I’ve taken some pretty rough spills, so I think I have a high pain tolerance, but I don’t know for sure.

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        Pretty quick.

        My kids are currently 5 and 2 had my vasectomy about 6 months after the second (wanted sooner but no appointments available, and it’s first consult then another appointment).

        Toughest thing for me was the second day. Day of I was given Valium, procedure was easy peasy. I’d call it a few days of discomfort, just plan to take it easy.

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        Not bad at all.

        For the first week doc said no erections- turns out not getting hard was the hardest part. After that, it was like a month or so of no unprotected sex. It’s been a few years so I might not remember correctly, but I think he recommended like 15 to 20 ejaculations in that time frame. And I’m going to humble brag here- I’ve been blessed with a wife whose libido is way higher than mine. But that month, knowing that each orgasm was one step closer to her not having kids again- she made it her mission in life to knock those orgasms out as fast as I could get it up.

        I didn’t really have any swelling that I can remember- I iced my scrotum for a few hours but it didn’t hurt too bad so I stopped after that. Some acetaminophen helped with the residual pain, and I think I had to take it easy for a couple of weeks- don’t lift anything heavy to strain your groin muscles.

        All in all, I don’t regret it and highly recommend anyone who is done having children to get one.

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          How the hell is one supposed to avoid getting any erections? Morning wood isn’t exactly something people have any degree of control over…

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        Not OP, but mine was really pretty manageable. 2 days of sitting in an easy chair and icing my balls, 2 days of “walking is fine, but avoid any sudden movements,” and a week of “it’s a little sore, but it doesn’t really hurt.” After that, it was about 2-3 weeks where I didn’t really notice it unless I moved the wrong way too suddenly (whereupon I’d get a quick twinge, but nothing too bad).

        Really a pretty small cost for the benefits. I don’t really like painkillers, but I do recommend some THC gummies for the first week and a fresh series to binge

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        I got mine last year. I was fully recovered in terms of physical activity within probably 4-5 days but I did get two very uncomfortable sperm granulomas that hung around for several days each. My nuts swelled up and turned purple so that was pretty fucking scary but it wasn’t anything dangerous. Just a lot of aching. But within a month I was completely back to normal.

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        Hmm I’m not sure. I got it over summer in college and work a desk job, so I got it done on friday, chilled all weekend on the couch watching movies, building legos, snacking, and icing my nuts, and I was back to work on monday

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        Mine wasn’t too bad. I spent a couple days on the couch taking OTC pain killers, and was able to move around well enough to light house work after a couple days. Honestly the hardest part was the month waiting to have sex before I could confirm it worked.

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        Multiple of my friends reported being totally fine right after, with no pain. Not even frozen peas. But they all waited a couple weeks before doing cum again.

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        The worst was over in a couple of days but for the next three months it stuff there was a slight discomfort in some situations

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          My close bois had a really easy time, they all said “something felt different for a week or two but life was normal otherwise”

          A small percentage of dudes have a horrible time though, and that’s awful.

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      I’m worried about pain. Also pain lasting a long/ permanent time.

      Also I had epididymitis already. So maybe I shouldn’t go for it.

      But too many guys get lied to and end up with a kid they didn’t want. That’s my biggest worry.