• WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world
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      Luckily, we can choose to reject reality and believe whatever makes us feel better.

      I feel best believing the biosphere is gonna force humanity to “find out” for the last century of fuckin around with a recklessly unplanned terraform.

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              Why does it seem like there are a ton more conservatives here on Lemmy than there were on Reddit?

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                  I don’t know how I feel about it. On one hand, it makes for less of an echo chamber. On the other hand, their thoughts are fucking stupid and it hurts my brain to see them.

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                  Man I am kinda sorry, that I invade your worldview.

                  But rich people don’t have all their money stored in a vault like Dagobert Duck. It’s all stocks.

                  And boy, if one of the companies make losses, then their money goes downhill. It’s volatile.

                  And due to immense concurrence in innovation in the tech sector, every investor has a huge interest in innovation.

                  And with many investment, the start of a company is ensured.

                  The current capitalism is the system that works best.

                  Especially the US capitalism is one hell of a driver in innovation. I live in Germany and many companies wouldn’t be possible here. Even though we have capitalism, it’s much softer than its US counterpart.

                  The downside of course is poverty for cheaper labour.

                  And that’s brutal, but it’s the reality we live in.

                  Though I wouldn’t want to live in the US without healthcare, on the counter side I wouldn’t want to start a company here in Europe.

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      My uber driver said that global warming is actually true but have literally nothing about human influence.

      Some years ago these persons were saying that global warming was a hoax, now that only the human influence is a hoax.

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        Ahhh, yes. The conservative backpedalling.

        It’s not happening. It’s happening but it’s all cyclical. It’s not cyclical this time but it’s not our fault. It’s our fault but global warming is good ackshually. Global warming is bad but there’s nothing we can do about it. We could do something about it but it’s too expensive/late. Maybe it’s not too expensive but THE CHINESE!

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          In stage one we say nothing is going to happen.

          Stage two, we say something may be about to happen, but we should do nothing about it.

          In stage three, we say that maybe we should do something about it, but there’s nothing we can do.

          Stage four, we say maybe there was something we could have done, but it’s too late now.

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        Had a argument with a person on YouTube, he thought that increased CO2 in the atmosphere would be beneficial. It would help plants grow better!

        Also that humans was not behind it.

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      What I hear some acquaintances say is like “who cares, I’ll go to the beach, turn the AC on, what’s the big deal” .

      As if the floods we had in Italy this year, or the wild fires, or the storms, or the draughts, or the Alps without snow, the glaciers disappeared, the sea turned green, the invasion of jellyfish weren’t connected.

      Some people, most people, are just too fucking stupid.

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    I used to be subbed to /r/collapse. I see world news is covering that for me.

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    Someone at work said “If climate change is real, then why don’t rich people sell their beach properties?”

    And before you ask, yes they are a boomer.

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      Whataboutism, the west contributes significantly more per capita than China. Yes they should be doing more but it’s better focused elsewhere

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      Thank fuck for that. Now if we can only turn off all the other a.c. as well, we’d have made a start!

      Edit: this was a joke, but wow, you Americans are really defensive about your AC. I live in the UK and the rare times it gets very hot we are miserable because our building almost never have AC, and are built to retain heat. So I do see how much more comfortable it makes you.

      Someone, who was trying to argue in favour of AC, said it uses 10% of all electricity globally. Thats insane! I guess we actually do need to turn it all off.

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        Well, you can’t so celebrating one poor guy’s AC going out in a heatwave is kind of a dick move, besides, it’s not AC in it of itself that is causing global warming, i’d bet that if we ran all AC on solar we’d still be fucked.

        Also it’s businesses cooling (empty) offices that are the bulk of the % of AC watt hours used.

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          One guy said it makes up for 1.5% of all the energy we use! That’s huuuuge. I was joking originally but I’m pretty convinced now.

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            I’d say 1.5% is a fucking steal for the benefit it provides, if I could only have one modern convenience i’d take AC every fucking time

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        Do you live outside? Under a liquid cooled tree? In a temperate zone? Never used electricity in your life?

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    Yeah, sad thing is we are already signed up for the next 20 years, as in even if we stopped emitting everything tomorrow, we would still have +2°C in 20 years…

    And how realistic is stopping everything tomorow?

    +3°C… we would need to have a new coronavirus crisis every years, not just a new one, but stack them on top, in terms of emissions. Ofc you can’t have more then one global confinement at a time (doesn’t make sense to double confine someone) so that wouldn’t even work.

    We. Are. Fucked.

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      We aren’t locked in for the next twenty years, only the next ten years.

      We could build a thousand RBMK like nuclear reactors in a decade and then suck out 50 ppm of CO2 out of the atmosphere in another decade.

      Would cost $500B to $1T or so.

      We just don’t really think global warming is serious enough to warrant an action plan at the scale of the Manhattan project, Apollo program or Messmer plan.

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        We’re not locked in for the next 20 years. Not for the next 10.

        The carbon in the atmosphere is going to be there for the next millenium and the temperature won’t level out till the 2100s if we stopped all carbon emission right this second.

        Furthermore, if we did stop all emissions right now, the planet would get 0.5-1.5 °C hotter within a year or two due to the end of the aerosol pollution cooling effect that’s been cutting the effects of carbon induced climate change in half this whole time.

        This year is so hot because they put limitations on sulfur emissions from shipping boats in the Pacific. Those emissions were cooling the atmosphere, but the aerosol emissions (which that sulfur is one of) only last in the atmosphere for about 2 weeks before they’re rained out of the air.

        We’re fucked.

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    Considering here in Winnipeg, Canada, where it reaches -35C or even colder, it was pretty wild having weeks on end of +30C to even +39C temperatures, and so soon into our summer.

    I never want to complain about the heat when we have snow for 7 months, but that was ridiculous.