• saltnotsugar@lemmy.world
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    It’s hard for me to understand how someone can be such a piece of shit. Like yeah, let’s let children starve for no reason at all.

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      The sad thing about the pandemic and the shift in the political scene is that waaaaay too many people are shitty this way. Not just rich people either. Being a shit human being has gone viral.

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        I just don’t get the “fuck you I got mine” mentality. There’s no empathy from these people. They think everyone who is poor made dumb choices and poor people should suffer for making those dumb choices. After all, just getting a job will sort everything right out according to conservatives, and getting a job is easy to them. They have never been affected by conditions that lead to poverty and it shows.

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          They have never been affected by conditions that lead to poverty and it shows.

          But if you go somewhere like Idaho or Mississippi… They’re all fucking poor!! Everyone is poor! Everyone lives hand to mouth and depends on social safety nets like this. But if you’re proper homeless then fuck you, no you don’t deserve any help?

          Blows my mind how entire self contained societies can all equally experience this kind of hardship and then instead of “I don’t want anyone else to suffer like we had to”, they instead conclude “I had to suffer like this, therefore everyone must suffer like this”.

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          They have never been affected by conditions that lead to poverty and it shows.

          You mean being lazy? Of course not. They’ll be the first to brag about how they work overtime or have more than 1 job to pay the bills.

          /s, in case that want obvious.

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          A lot of it has to do with an inflated view of one’s self and persecusion complex. Studies have shown that the more conservative one is the better off one thinks they will be. When the whole inheritance tax was being talked about all these poor conservtives thought some day they will be so well off the tax would affect them when in reality their lifetime gross income wouldn’t be enough if they saved it all. The whole “work hard and you will get everything” idea is burned into their brains inspite of reality.

          When you then look at any achievement by these same people they make it out to be some crazy effort on their side. All hardships were the extreme and targeting them, in their warped view. They don’t realize their struggles were the same as everyone else and they were helped out in many ways that no one ever picks themselves up by their bootstraps.

          So they have this “my life was the worst” and “i pulled myself up with no help” view of their lives that everyone else is just shit. In reality they are so delusional that even common decency is forign to them. Pile on that many are Christians if poor and narcissist and sociopaths if rich the complex grow many fold.

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            I think this is closer. I read once that the happiest people in the world were conservatives living in countries with a strong social safety net, and lots of government subsided programs, because they simultaneously benefited from the programs and believed their success was something they achieved on their own.

            So even if they were poor and got out, they take a different lesson from it. Not “there but for the grace of God go I” or “wow, I’m so glad I got subsidized education and food when I needed it so that I could get here” but more “I got mine fuck you”

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        Nice use of TM there.

        The corporate orwellian spin there, yup. What would Jesus Christ do? He wants you to be prosperous, so, starve those children.

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      It’s hard for me to understand how someone can be such a piece of shit.

      Literally how he gets paid. He’s a man-child whose every act of petulance and grotesqueness fattens his wallet and raises his social media profile. The only reason he’s not filling the hole left by Charlie Kirk’s neck is because Nick Fuentes, Ben Shapiro, and JD Vance all scrambled in first.

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        Seems hate and rage bait channels are all the rage lately. Just cultivate more hate and bullshit. Good job america.

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        I think Chowder’s career is over after the video of him verbally abusing his pregnant wife came out.

        So glad I don’t have to see that guy anymore.

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          Trump raped his wife* and became president.

          *technically not rape because the law defined rape in a limited way at the time, kind of like how husbands were exempt in the past

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            Steven Crowder is no Trump.

            I don’t know if I could ever tell you why, but people find Trump charismatic to a point where he can apparently get away with literally anything.

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      He basically disappeared because there was video of him abusing his wife who then divorced him. He is obviously a piece of shit from all of his “work”, but in case anyone thought it was all an act for the grift… He’s also a piece of shit irl.

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      No reason at all?! Are you kidding? They’re doing it for profit. It’s all for the bottom line! If a few kids starve, who cares? Most of them are brown anyway.

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        The funniest part is the stores and their suppliers are pushing for SNAP benefits in the interest of profits, so the profiteering is fighting itself.

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        I think they also genuinely enjoy it and believe somewhere in the future whoever is left will thank them for it

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        I think it’s more than that, they are heavily invested in a rather nasty version of the “just world hypothesis”: if bad stuff happens to these people, like being poor and hungry, it’s because they are bad and deserve it.

        It’s the same logic at play for blaming victims or rape and sexual violence.

        Because the alternative, that the world isn’t fair and horrible stuff happens to good people and good things also happen to horrible people, is too unpleasant and exhausting to contemplate and requires complex thought.

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          Oh yup, they love that circular reasoning bias, eh? The cart is supposed to go before the horse. They are rich because god wants them to be. The poor are poor because god is judging them. Pay no attention to the suffering, or you’re going against god!

          Oh to start teaching philosophy and epistemology to children. Then maybe fewer would grow up with such harmful toxic dogmatic ideologies riddled with this circular reasoning fallacy.

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          Specifically, breaking the just world illusion is unpleasant and exhausting because it removes the only reassurance they have that they are good people.

          If they prosper in a just world then they are good. If you convince them the world is unjust then they have to grapple with being an awful person who has done and said awful things.

          It’s virtually impossible to convince someone of that

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    You can imagine how that went.

    They’re always so proud of upsetting other people, like it’s a major win in the struggle for political dominance.

    “I shat in the mall. You can imagine how that went.”

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      Honestly after the whole Kirk thing im kinda surprised to see the grifters are still out in public without a layer of plexiglass. Its not like they can filter out the republicans at a republican meeting.

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    Let’s make a deal. We cancel SNAP and implement a Negative Income Tax as conservative economist Milton Friedman recommended. That brings everyone up to the poverty line, and everyone on SNAP today won’t need it anymore.

    Benefits for you:

    • close a bunch of SNAP jobs
    • retail stores don’t need to remember what’s snap approved and what’s not

    Benefits for everyone else:

    • no more poverty
    • no application process for benefits, just file a fax return
    • cash instead of food-specific benefits, so people with food can use the cash for something else they need (clothes, utilities, etc)
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      Yeah, poverty’s expensive for everybody.

      Much as I’m loathed to ever agree with an economist (conservative or otherwise), the general thrust there’s sound.

      Let the currency (and energy) flow. For the good of all, the prosperity of all. Even the rich are better off.

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        The rich are better off is a weird saying. Who is better off a billionaire with $1 billion or a billionaire with 10 billion? They are the same, nobody can spend a billion in their lifetime. These people build $500 million mega yatchs because they have nothing better to do with their money.

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          Better off with everybody in at least sufficiency, if not abundance, even a rather egalitarian abundance with everybody afforded the best, because then they no longer have to live in fear, looking over their shoulder, dealing with the stress of having to maintain a constant deception over the impoverished masses, no longer having to maintain an army to protect them against the masses rising up. Ask them, “Do you have spaceships yet? And the reassurance everybody else does too, so they’re not wanting yours?” and then maybe the “better off” becomes apparent, beyond the mono-linear mundane wealth accumulation tower.

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    Also this piece of shit doesnt have a mind worth changing. Just ignore him and use the calvin version of the meme, or better yet dont use that format anymore.

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    Please set up your dinky little table somewhere with many tall buildings Steven.

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    Shit like that doesn’t need to be debated.

    Even in Ancient Rome they had a grain dole that… paid for itself! With interest! Because the poor who would otherwise struggle to buy wheat or barley got it, and could buy other stuff, even luxury items. The result is that more and more trade flowed directly to Rome and people made a bundle doing it.

    And also less hungry people means less desperate people and it means more stability. Something that basically everyone wants.

    But yes, these same right-wing grifters even attacked the grain dole in Ancient Rome as if it lead to the fall of the Roman Empire.

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      Pretty simple when it’s spelled out like that.

      But then… It’s troubling, that even this simple’s still out of reach for some short sighted greedy stupid smugnorant hypocritical parasitic narcissistic trolls.

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      But giving away grain to peasants is why the entire empire fell to ruin! Letting people starve is the most humane way of reducing hunger in the long run, it just takes strong leadership to do what most be done. Really, it’ll be faster, easier, and cheaper (which is by definition better for everyone) if we help accelerate things. Which will be the next bit of societal tough love that Crowder will be taking the high road on.

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        Crowder would be turned to chowder in the Roman collosseum. Not in being a gladiator or beastarius, but in being one of the convicts slaughtered by other convicts or fed to the lions… and few would watch since those games were actually the least popular of the events.

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    Legitimately every Republican I met is defending themselves, from taking money from the Government, while every leftest is fighting for everyone else to take money from gov programs. Why are retardpublicans so worried about poor people taking from the rich while also stealing the same benefits from working Americans who need it. “Riches for me but no one else” is literally their tagline

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      They’ll say “if they’re clever enough to not pay taxes then that’s fine by me!” as billionaires pay less than 1% real tax because they get to write the laws and then they’ll claim that a city bike lane has stolen their tax money.

      They’re stupid as hell. Like, profundly fucking stupid. Conservatives are so pathetic and I’m embarrassed to be considered part of the same species as them.

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          There’s nothing evolutionary about it. Humans have been doing altruism and cooperation for hundreds of thousands of years. It’s cultural.

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            I strongly believe that greed is a vestigial trait from a time when scarcity was real. Ones instinct to preserve their bloodline would have necessarily involved greed, me and mine first. I also believe that some early humans developed the ability to overcome that instinctual drive, and we call that empathy. Life is actually a whole lot easier when you understand that greedy people are developmentally inept, their genealogy prevents them from having the ability to empathize with others. It’s not to say it isn’t a problem, but sometimes having an explanation to why a thing is the way it is helps understand it better.

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    crowder seems to have largely disappeared from the GRIFTERSPHERE, after video of him assaulting his wife. and there are instances of him Sexually harrassing MALE-only employees too.