tech savvy ppl and non-techy ppl both dont like Edge, Bing and copilot
i like edging
if im using chromium, it’s gonna be vivaldi
Can it set the bookmarks bar to only show up on the new tab page yet?
yeah basically any bookmarks you put in your speed dial older show up on the new tab page
Speed dial is not the same as bookmarks though
Edge is just Chromium now (so worth hating still, but for different reason), and Bing has its uses. Hell, isn’t DuckDuckGo basically Bing?
Yup. Never understood the Bing hate, they got better years ago. DDG is a source in my SearXNG instance, does fine.
Bing has its uses
Porn?
Google has been enshittified to the point where I constantly have to re-search on Bing to actually find an answer.
Also yes.
Also
Go on…
Like I said, it’s one of the engines that drive DuckDuckGo. These days I only turn to Google on the rare occasion that DuckDuckGo fails me, so Bing gets some appreciation from me there.
Unfortunately even most DDG results are just ai slop now.
Something really cool you can do though is block sites from showing up in the results.
So if you’re looking up Linux answers for instance and you keep coming across “First of all, what is a Linux, we’re going to…” Ai slop sites, you can click thr 3 dots next to the result and tell it to blacklist that site.
Not perfect, but definitely helps!
You’re quite limited on how many sites you can block. I at least try to report them, but it’s 90% of results and ai just keeps generating new domain names. Welcome to homehelpfixshowervalve.com!
Id feel better about DuckDuckGo if it wasnt shoehorning ai
DDG seems fairly gentle about pushing it though.
Meh
Google isn’t as good as it was and bing isn’t as bad as it once was
Not just DuckDuckGo - the majority of search engines and voice assistants that aren’t Google use data from Bing. It’s the largest search engine that has a public API. Even search engines that have their own index usually use Bing to supplement their results.
Yeah, it’s like bing but actually anonymous.
Bing used to be better than Google for a time but it has gotten worse too to the point where I use Google again. Edge is, IMO, unfairly maligned. It’s a perfectly good browser, although Microsoft begging me to use it is quite annoying.
I know this is the wrong place for this but I like edge.
On my work computer I actually use Edge over Chrome since it has vertical tabs by default.
Edges vertical tabs are actually one of the best implementations. Zen is close but it can be unstable, especially if you start moving tabs out of the existing window, it fucks up essentials.
I use edge on Mac.
Me too, I tried using Firefox on Mac but for some reason its power consumption is insanely high.
Bing is a better search engine than Google, but both are pale imitations of their former selves. It’s amazing how bad search has gotten in the last ~5 years
I hate Bing but right now I am sour on anything Google.
Not true in my experience, I would say the majority of windows users I see these days use edge and bing. Most don’t use copilot though
In my experience non-techy people just don’t know what Edge and Bing are.
Lol when our CFO called it “the wave browser”
Which “non-techy people” are we talking about here?
Nowadays some people only use smartphones or maybe tablets, and they might not know that. But most non-techy desktop users still use Windows and they certainly ought to know the default browser (and its search engine) on their OS, I would think.
I’m talking about people on Windows desktops. They don’t know what Windows is, they confuse Office with Windows all the time, they go online through the “internet symbol” which is their default browser that they don’t know the name of. Google is their default search engine and they’ve never seen any other search engine.
If Google is their default search engine, they must at least be tech-savvy enough to have changed the search engine in Edge, or installed another browser (probably Chrome).
I love how you guys go “oooh, tech savvy this” and “tech savvy that”, but you consider Chrome to be something fundamentally different than Edge without some extra features.
Buddy, it’s all Chromium. Sure, the telemetry data goes to MS instead of Google, but that’s it, that’s all the difference there is. Ignoring, of course, all the extra stuff MS has added, like vertical tabs, mouse gestures, etc.
“Tech savvy people use the Chromium with Google telemetry instead of Chromium with extra features and MS telemetry!!1”, lol!
I don’t see where I said anything that contradicts anything in your comment.
No they complained to enough people around them that “the internet doesn’t work” until someone did it for them
Is the 1# bing search still “google”?
For many non-techy people it’s probably simply the internet button.
They might know the icon; they probably don’t know its name tho.
And in my experience, non-tech people use the default browser and its default search engine. If they hate it, they certainly don’t show it.
ppl
\sigh
Did I tell anyone about that time that I use arch?
Honestly, the preinstalled spyware aside, Edge is a pretty good browser. It’s, like, Chrome but better
This is like saying “patient is pretty healthy, except their health is failing”
Edge is a pretty good browser.
Setting aside my requirements to minimize spying and avoiding big tech. I agree.
You posting this sentence in a thread about “tech-savvy people” preferring Chrome to Edge, makes you sound like you think Google isn’t “big tech” or is not “spying”.
But the dick is at least lubed!
Chrome is fucking us all no matter what form it happens to be taking at the time.
Tech savvy people like Duckduckgo, Duckduckgo uses Bing under the hood
I host my own search engine lol.
Yacy what you did there
Ah, finally someone using the European open Search index?
No lol. SearXNG. But would look up what you mentioned
SearXNG is not a search engine. It is a Frontend for everything from Google to bing.
Ik that. I was talking in terms of a layman.
We also maintain our own crawler (DuckDuckBot) and many indexes to support our results.
DDG uses a whole bunch of stuff, including feeding anonymized results through the bing API, but they’ve been largely driven by their own indexes for several years now after using Bing to bootstrap themselves.
