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    Every year it gets worse.

    Some day these photos and videos may be used as proof for future generations against our “ruling class” @Harvard, Wall Street, JP Morgan, IMF, and various world governments (all?)

    …although it will probably be after we are all dead.

    Will anyone be willing to “take one for the team” and release all of this information? Or will it wait for our children’s children to face the truth?

    There must be at least one suicidal, spiteful CIA agent, right? COME ON

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    I’m betting tRump ate a child. Not sexual eating (though, probably that too). No, I’m betting with a fork and knife.

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    The FBI has a project called ECAP, and basically some poor FBI agents have to watch CSAM to determine if they can locate the child or the offenders. Sometimes if they can get a shot of the offenders face or voice or movement, they post it on their website with the CSAM part blocked out to try and help find these sociopaths. It is AWFULLY hard to look at or hear even redacted like that. It’s very clear what they’re doing in the images.

    So I cannot IMAGINE what this is like.

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    I mean out of those 14TB a huge chunk will be photos and videos I never want to see.

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      We don’t want to see them but they should be made available to legal institutions and people with actual credentials to investigate by request.

      Also, the removal of actual pictures of humans being harmed, despite my wish for those things to not be shared online like so many 9/11 memes, should be shared with congress and senate and every last lawmaker and their aides and sure, family members too.

      Everyone needs some kind of tangible reminder that we’re dealing with evil against human beings and innocent children of the very worst kinds, so that there’s social fucking pressure and moral fucking pressure to DO SOMETHING about it and start doing their goddamn jobs by bringing justice.

      We pay them to do this for us, we pay them to uphold justice and not a single American named in those files has even resigned, much less had charges levied against them.

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    Some girls did not make it back from that island! No one is asking the real questions here. What happened to those girls?

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        As much as I would like to know what is going on, I am very skeptical of any article coming from the dailymailuk.

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        MAGA: “no, no, no, it wasn’t to dissolve bodies at all! He was making crystal meth!”

        spoiler

        (that’s an actual argument some of the MAGAts used online already)

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      The files themselves have witness statements describing at least some of the victims being thrown over boats.

      There is evil reported in those documents that’s not getting shared because the details are bafflingly evil and horrific, and nothing is going to come from it.

      History will look back at this entire affair with the same level of horror as we look back at some of the most vile practices of the dark ages.

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    I’m ok with the U.S. government not actually distributing child sexual abuse material. I’m not ok with pretending it’s not there.

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      US government helped make it.

      Epstein sent FOIA requests to the CIA on himself about his relationship with them and they sent back only GLOMARs stating they could neither confirm nor deny anything because it would reveal information on classified programs. His bodyguard claims he was sent to train with CIA at Langley upon being hired.

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      No, we don’t want it shared on the open internet but legal institutions and law enforcement agencies should absolutely have unrestricted access to all unedited video and photo evidence.

      The fact that they’re hiding evidence from state law enforcement is one of those things that is baffling that nobody is talking about.

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      I can understand them not distributing the unedited material, but it shouldn’t be hard to get edited stills of any other people in the photos or videos, other than the victims. We should see the faces of these PedoCons.

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    If there was a situation I’d want something like palantiers software to scan a shitload of video footage and give facial recognition data and a summary to exist… this is it. But of course… since it would actually do some good, it’s not being used for this case.

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      Palantir is more likely to be used to try and hide this shit than it this to try and bring it out to light.

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        Seeing as Peter Thiel is on the list, and frequented his island and parties, that’s a pretty safe bet that thiel is working to quash any exposure.

        I want to know if they abused boys as well, I bet they did, both thiel and mandelson are gay, and I bet they abused boys. But these releases from the doj are only a few of the people, not what they did. They don’t have to id the victims, but if thiel fucked an underage boy, which we all know he did, it should’ve been disclosed. We need a way to get this information in the public domain.

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          you are saying that the guy who injects young boys’ blood into his body to preserve his own youth is also raping young boys?

          woah, man, you are sounding like a conspiracy theorist.

          /s

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        Obviously, just pointing out… they literally have designed and are using a tool that has the exact capacities needed to do the unthinkable… IE watch countless hours of CSAM, that would wreck the souls of any human with a heart. identify and footnote every instance of a perpetrators face being revealed, identify and log the exact timestamp of each identifying frames.

        We know they won’t use it for this… but the irony of knowing they have the technology that has this exact capability, and are only using it to go after people that more or less have not victimized anyone is so disheartening.

        It’s like if they invented a small portable cheap device that could create safe drinking water wherever you need it, and their only thought was “hey we can use this to waterboard people”.

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          It’s like if they invented …

          So this reads like a reference to something real. Please tell me you just made this up

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            no to my knowledge there is no clean water technology that’s used for waterboarding, just noting the sad state that literally the 2 current major events of the year are extreme advances in technology to go through weeks of video footage to track down individuals, and that the DOJ is sitting on an obscene amount of CSAM, most likely involving prominent wealthy people… and there’s no way this technology and this problem are going to be used together.

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    Death and physical abuse and injury are in the files. And supposedly only Epstein and Maxwell are guilty?

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    death

    I was happy believing snuff movies were a myth, or extremely rare.

    Now I need these bastards dead (extremely painfully if possible, but I’ll take anything that removes them from society).

    I already did, of course, but now it’s even more urgent.

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      I was happy believing snuff movies were a myth, or extremely rare.

      I read a lot of anthropology and have read numerous stories about mass graves being found from pre-recorded historical times, early bronze/copper age days, excavations of giant pits filled with bones of women and children with cut-marks on the bones and signs of systemic, ritualistic cannibalism and torture. (bones that healed after being broken repeatedly to show victims were kept alive and immobilized.)

      And the dark pill to swallow here is that we are the same species as we were then.

      These were things done by developed humans who could write and do art and think. We have not changed or evolved, and the worst people among us will continue to do the worst things imaginable, which is a naivety that our modern world of comforts has instilled in us broadly and made us ignorant of and incapable of addressing with the severity and deadly punishment it should warrant.

      Epstein was just one of many, many people who deal in this too. It’s happening right now somewhere in this huge world. Probably in many places.

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      The moment children and then babies where mentioned, it was a sign that this is a much deeper hole. The initial stages where women and teens where mentioned was just the surface of true evil that lies within.

      Where at the stage where we entered the unthinkable zone. Somewhere where the human part of a human doesn’t matter and where children and even babies are being dragged down.

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      Wait I thought to be a true “snuff film” it had to be like an actual scripted narrative film with like “filmmakers” wherein someone is murdered on screen for real, not just home murder movies, am I wrong? If any recorded murder counts then of course there’s snuff films, 3 guys 1 hammer comes to mind, BTK, etc, but I thought it had to be like a proper movie.

      If I’m right then this is more of a home movie/blackmail material situation, I don’t think they have like a secret Woody Allen film (though nothing is impossible, he’s in the files, they could.)

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        There are a lot of homemade snuff films unfortunately, what is this 3 guys 1 hammer although I hesitate to ask?

        I saw a gruesome one of a prison riot in south america, I didn’t know what it was right away, as they had like gauze wrapped around this guy’s head to look like a mummy, and were boxcuttering his neck, took me like 10 seconds to realize what it was. Sick shit.

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          what is this 3 guys 1 hammer although I hesitate to ask?

          Do not pursue this any further, I know only of the story and some screenshots I will not watch the video and it ruined me for a while.

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          3 guys 1 hammer is a video of some kids killing a guy, but there’s no plot so I don’t think it counts as a “snuff film,” and by “homemade snuff films” do you mean they have a plot and some production value, lighting, scripting, and someone dies, or do you mean “murder that was filmed?” Because that’s kinda my point I don’t know if it counts without a plot.

          gruesome one of a prison riot in south america,

          See from this description I don’t count that as a “snuff film,” and I’m questioning if it counts, because of course “filmed death” isn’t a myth, there’s countless examples. A quick search defines “snuff films” as:

          snuff film

          noun

          A movie in a purported genre of movies in which an actor is actually murdered or commits suicide

          A film that shows, or purports to show, the actual deliberate killing of one of the performers.

          So that seems to suggest that I’m right.

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    Rmember: Epstein did this alone and for himself. No billionaire friend was involved and no lackey ever helped. \s

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      No you’re right. We can’t handle it.

      Share it anyway. Whether or not we can handle it shouldn’t be the issue. The truth should be. Let the world know just how awful these people are and the remarkably unfettered and despicable things they did.

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    And then they passed this rule that only congress members (personally, no aides) can look at the files, on provided government computers.

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      They’re on display in the bottom drawer of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying “Beware of the Leopard”.

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        I don’t think so. This was on the news just a few days ago. I think the files are quite accessible, but only to high-level officials. The point is that it would take many days of full-time work to sift through everything, and they cannot offload it to other people working for them.

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          What do you mean? They are only available to members of congress, not their staffs, which do all the work, and only available in a secure scif whatever, they can’t bring in electronics, it’s read only, and taking notes.

          Lawmakers don’t do anything themselves their staff does stuff. Disallowing their staffs, and electronic devices to be used, guarentees they won’t be able to uncover virturally everything being hidden from us here.

          So no, the files aren’t accessible, there is zero way to get an honest accounting of even these 3 million of 8 million total pages that were illegally redacted before the justice department got to redacting them. Protecting victims predictably means protecting co conspirators. After all the president and his billionaire pals are always the real victims.

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      Making it impossible to well sift through them. Everything is done with lawmakers’ staff. Lawmakers don’t even read the bills they vote on, not even the ones they author. It’s all their aides, if not other groups that write it for them, or give the model legislation to their aides that fill in the blanks.

      Congress needs to pass new legislation to get this information out there somehow, this is open corruption to shield blackmailed child fuckers, how are we ok with this? No one thinks these redactions are in good faith, least of all the republicans.

      Israel first always. This president made a mockery out of his own slogan in his dotage here, ultimately because Israel has him 7 ways from sunday doing heinous shit that even his base couldn’t support. If the evangelicals drop him for moral reasons, it would have to be heinous.