I’m so fucking stoked now that we can shit on Republicans for having an old candidate. We should reeeallly lean on this. Come up with slogans:
Diaper Donald the Geriatric Cheeto Pedo
And post it on billboards all over purple counties
You can look at all my comments today to see my enthusiasm. I wish more folks were feeling hopeful. I told my partner I was stoked and she was so confused as to why this shouldn’t be perceived as a full scale collapse.
I didn’t like Kamala in the past. I didn’t like Biden either. Politically speaking, they both align closely with one another and are also aligned quite close to my political leanings, ideally speaking. I didn’t like the baggage Kamala brought with her and I didn’t like how boring ole Biden was. Turns out boring won, and I’ve truly valued the work he’s done since 2020.
I’ve also come around on Kamala since then, especially after reading her book, and listening to some of her speeches more recently. I don’t think she’s the same person she was 20+ years ago. Who among us would say that about ourselves? I think she’s evolved away from the drug criminalization prosecutor era, and she’s clearly gotten a lot stronger since 2020 as both a public speaker and debater.
If her and Trump actually do have a debate (I doubt it) I fully expect her to completely embarrass him. She’s much younger, much sharper, and has all of the right tools through her career to completely pants him as the old withering corpse that he has become even since 2016. Bonus points if she drops a “lock him up!” because, well, she actually could.
Yes, I am actually looking forward to voting for Harris. I would even more so if she taps Mark Kelly as her VP. That would be a dream.
Bonus points if she drops a “lock him up!” because, well, she actually could.
I would love to see Trump speechless
Is that something that can actually happen?
doubt it, he’d just start blabbing about the “biden crime family”, before veering off to a completely different subject in the middle of a sentence.
This is the right attitude. Not in terms of political strategy, but in a practical sense. The point about how none of us are who were 20 years ago is huge. I appreciate all Joe’s done and his huge patriotic sacrifice…
But now I’m actually hopeful! I’m enthusiastic! I’m energized! Join me in volunteering and donating, and make sure everyone you know votes. Donald Trump and his 2025 architects don’t have a chance if we’re all united!!!
It has do be done in the right way.
I suggest we find all the republican ones and write over the top in clear sharpie. Clearly still republican signs.
They don’t care. If the hypocrisy of saying that while running a 78 year old candidate is lost on you, consider that every word out of their mouth is projection, and they’ll probably start saying stuff like Kamala doesn’t have the experience to lead or that being half Indian makes her beholden to foreign powers or some shit, despite mango bastard being the most unfit to lead president in history and his various business and familial ties to foreign power.
Hey, don’t insult mangos like that. Mangos are dope.
They do care. It’s why they swap narratives. It’s a mechanism on a cultural level derived by the negligence of Trump himself, that being his inability to take responsibility. Something the GOP has always done, turned up to 11. You don’t fight this with facts, you fight it by targeting emotion.
At least he was already wearing a diaper when that teen shot at him, he definitely shit his pants.
they need to be short, diaper donald is a good one though, stick with just that.
What if democrats nominate Oldie Oldson?
Oh, you mean future president Not Trump? Yeah, I’d vote for that guy.
These are the wrong reasons to call out the opposing party.
I would still vote for Sanders even if he was shitting his pants. Point is he hasn’t lost his mind yet.
Because people that support Trump need to be humiliated for the piece of trash they are trying to put in office.
What, are we in kindergarten now? Do we make fun of old people that Democrats need to help win this election? People care about policies.
Take a look at the official federal Republican platform and say that again with a straight face, I fucking dare you.
The average voter in this country is undereducated, underemployed and uninformed. Trump voters voted for him because they thought they were kicking the establishment in the nuts. And of course the saving the guns and the right to bare babies or some shit I’m sure.
No, they don’t understand the policies. And they don’t care to. They generally don’t even watch the debates or speeches. They’re comfortable not knowing. They just want to feel relevant and heard, and sadly the GOP misinformation & marketing has been fairly successful at convincing them Republicans are the ones who care about them over the last 30 years.
If you want your messaging to be that voters are idiots who have no clue what they want, then you might as well embrace a Trump win now.
No, that’s the tragedy. Americans are smart, kind, and compassionate people as a culture. Nearly everyone who travels here from Europe is surprised by this. But through lifelong indoctrination, careful defunding of education and social programs, a huge portion of the population are uneducated and hate specific groups of people they hardly know.
This isn’t the messaging, this is the truth.
The Democratic messaging, largely in response to these circumstances, is that we can do better with time and effort.
You do realize a lot of people travel here too and are accepted and welcomed, and have a positive time too… and it makes Democrats that preach doom & gloom nonstop look like liars. Yes, there are issues… the media likes to talk about the bad more than the good cause it gets reactions & ratings.
If Democrats focus on your last point and that becomes their message to voters to focus on that, then they will be highly successful. Trump gets so much media attention partially because Democrats eat it up… almost like they are addicted to Trump.
Republican voters keep voting against welfare, social security, and healthcare. They are the people more likely to need government assistance. Not all people care about policies.
A lot of Republican voters believe whatever their preacher tells them. Many of them are indoctrinated into a cult. Some of them see Democrats not practicing what they preach, and say… hey, if they’re not going to be honest might as well trust this other guy more. Some of them are malicious and believe they’ll get tax cuts and less regulation to profit.
Democrats though need to focus on a message of providing for the American people. Not all Republicans are lost causes. In the end, the role of a President isn’t to only take care of the people that voted for you. The more you can rally around talking about how Kamala or whoever is nominated and what they plan and will do for America, to help with inflation, house prices, regulation, jobs & opportunities, etc, the more you’ll get people interested.
If you just want to talk about how stupid you think Republicans are, then your message isn’t going to be very strong.
This has nothing to do with insulting stupid Republicans and more to do with showing logic to the logical. If they think Biden is too old to run 4 years ago, then Trump is too old to run now.
Its admirable that you care so much about being fair that you’re worried that they might be too easy to beat with their star player being handicapped. Now if you believe them winning means they’ll create a fascist America afterwards, then I’d prefer their star player be handicapped.
The vast majority of people do not even know what the policies of each party are, little less have opinions on which are better.
Its about the message you send to your voters… do you treat them with any ounce of respect about their ability to make smart informed decisions, or do you treat them like they are idiots?
I treat Republicans like they are idiots.
For the past three months, the Republicans and every disinformation campaign has pointed to Biden’s (non-age-related) speaking stutters and 2-year age difference and said “old bad”.
This is not immaturity. This is bipartisanship. We’re just mockingly saying “Yes.”
Who cares if they make disingenuous claims? That is their platform so let them suffer the consequences of being hypocrites. If they want to run and old narcissistic man, then let them. You should be glad they’re running Trump. The more you talk and complain about Trump, it only makes Democrats look weak. Talk about something positive now, like how as a Democrat you want to commit to a platform based on core values. It is time to move on from the doom and gloom messaging.
If you don’t care about them, don’t police our positive thoughts.
Laughing at hypocritical bastards and the morons who support them is our positivity. It’s not “doom and gloom”.
Do you even have a platform or is your only strategy to act just like a Trump supporter while claiming you’re somehow different?
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yes actually, because thats the SOLE thing the republicans are running on, its the ONE thing they have, we need to give them a bit of what for to have their panties in a bunch. That or they win again and we get shit on, again…
This guy?!Isn’t that Jennifer Lopez?
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Taco flavored keeses for my Kamila
This isn’t the weirdest thing that could happen.
What would be really crazy is if she then died while in office.
Trump cancels his presidential campaign, comes on board as Harris’ VP nom
The way the founding fathers intended
“Originally, each elector cast two votes for president; at least one of the individuals voted for had to be from a state different from the elector’s. The individual with the majority of votes became president, and the runner-up became vice president.”
It would still be really fucking stupid.
Wouldn’t that be a nice rule to have for world events.
It’s up there though
I guffawed. This was excellent.
I’d try to avoid the Putin/Medvedev president -vice switch vibes…
This. Getting Biden in as a VP would threaten the legitimacy of the democracy, which was already in jeopardy by the DNC shoving the candidate through very weak primaries.
What you just said has no foundation in reality.
i think the only thing not stated in reality was the /s at the end of the comment
No, I’m not being sarcastic, and actually I am quoting Vlad Vexler. The trheat to democratic trust is that Biden was squeezed through without proper opportunity for party members to compare candidates. Twice (the Bernie Sanders case also being pretty murky.
If Biden was brought in as Vice President, then ppl would just assume that something shifty is happening behind the scenes, again. The stated threat to democracy is via a threat to trust in democratic structures.
Don’t get me wrong. I am neither American, nor conservatives (even on non-US levels.)
The trheat to democratic trust is that Biden was squeezed through without proper opportunity for party members to compare candidates.
i guess so, but that would a problem with the DNC specifically. And aside from it not being a direct democracy, i’m not sure there’s a huge problem with that, because you can still run an independent alongside the primary DNC runner for example.
The VP isn’t that unimportant. If you can’t do the job as President, you shouldn’t be VP either.
Right that’s why Trump took another fascist so he can be sure next time he’ll do his bidding by not certifying the election.
Any reason to keep wearing my dark brandon teeshirt.
I’ve heard good things about this Brandon guy
Can you imagine 🤯
this would be such a fucking shitpost, and honestly, i think i would support it because its fucking hilarious.
Would that make him the longest serving vice president or has someone done more?
According to wikipedia, right now he’s tied with 6 others for first.
My best guess was VP under FDR, but he had three vice presidents.
Double Reverse Veep with a half gainer
This is what I thought would happen if he stepped down. We’ll see.
That is a sure way to lose.
How could you possibly be so sure of that?
Well, it’d certainly bizarre enough to invite confusion. If the call was made that he couldn’t continue as President, then turn around and say “VP!”, well that would be very odd since you undermined his credibility then turned back around and leaned hard on him.
Seriously? The guy who’s mental state declined so much that he lost a debate to Trump, that a majority of Democrats wanted him out and whose own party showed him for two weeks that he was losing in all the polls and didn’t have a chance, would be a good choice for VP? Like, are you being serious? Why not a Hillary/Biden ticket if you really want to lose?
whose
Biden didn’t lose the debate. Trump’s the guy who audibly shat his pants live in front of the entire nation. Dementia Donald is no match for Hardy Harris.
Biden lost the debate by all accounts. His performance was so bad he literally had to exit the race. You’re not going to win by living in la la land.
Trump didn’t even answer the questions. The reason Biden exited the race and Trump didn’t, is that Biden is a humble man who values the younger generation, and he had a high standard for himself that he didn’t meet. Meanwhile Sleepy Don poops his pants on camera and the GOP doesn’t care. They’re fine running a frail old man who’d drop dead a year into his presidency if he won. Tapioca Trump lost, it just didn’t matter because nobody expected him to be coherent.
Where can I see footage of trump audibly pooping his pants?
Yes because word stumbling is the ultimate in incompetence. Lying extensively about everything with zero substance whatsoever, that’s a true mark of a leader and master debater
While I agree with you with how it should be, the reality is who conducted themselves better. Notably lying should be a huge liability because the other party can tear apart the lies. However Biden barely did so (a little bit, but mostly let things slide). So absent of context, people saw one man stringing together coherent points that, if you didn’t know any better, sounded plausible while the other failed to call him on any of it, while also struggling to put together basic responses.
Usually Biden mistakes are mere ‘word stumblings’ but that night was really particularly off.
He likely could’ve won as a presidential candidate but you’re so sure it’s not even worth questioning that just his stink would completely destroy Harris’s chances.
I have zero clue what it would be like to be that sure of anything. The confidence you people have in ideas you can’t possibly be sure of is…alarming.
Of course I have confidence because I take emotions out of it. Democrats are a better alternative to Trump and Republicans, but if you make excuses for your party all the time cause you’re so emotionally invested then you completely lose touch with the reality of what a lot of voters care about, which is honesty & values. Democrats can’t win against Trump saying how terrible he is by acting more like Trump.
I would argue that overconfidence specifically results from being overly emotional and not knowing how to deal with it.
I’ve been saying Biden will drop out for weeks because his debate performance was an eye-opening experience about how much his campaign had been lying and propping him up, and all the polls showed it. Within the first day or two he should have went on multiple live press interviews if he still had his wits about him. He couldn’t do it. He ran and hid and then did select interviews where his team even provided the questions for the radio hosts to ask, and he still struggled.
I was called a Trump supporter, a fascist, and even banned from at least one community here on Lemmy. I was consistently downvoted for even expressing any negative opinion about Biden. The behavior was more like I was being attacked by a cult of followers, similar to what was being said about Trump supporters.
Biden dropped out. I was right and they were wrong. I wasn’t in the cult. So, if you want to be or stay in a cult, then go right ahead. I’m not going to stop you.
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Must be eligible to run for president. No hard limits on how long someone can be VP.
https://digitalcommons.law.uga.edu/fac_artchop/1012/
Apparently no restrictions at all?
Hes not though. At minimum he has covid right now and being his advanced age it could concievably lay him all the way out.
