• Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    It’s probably one of those occupations with a Maximum IQ requirement rather than a Minimum IQ requirement.

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    The fact that the negligent discharges often involve experienced officers should be a wake up call that ICEs recent behavior isn’t new or just because of Trump - the incompetence is baked in.

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      That’s what’s surprising. All the shootings, intentional and otherwise, are exactly the result you’d expect from adding a bunch of untrained morons to the group. But most of the incidents are from dudes with 5+ years experience. What the fuck.

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        Honestly it makes sense. Most incidents are due to complacency with rules/procedures. A new guy joins and follows every rule to the letter, but more experienced people think "Well, I’ve gone all this time without an incident and bent the rules a little here and there, and it’s not been a problem.

        You see it happen all the time working around heavy machinery. The new guy gets trained on the Limb Mangler and is absolutely terrified of it, so he follows every rule to the letter. The experienced guy has worked with the Limb Mangler for 10 years and knows that the correct process for un-jamming the de-gloving reels takes like 45 minutes and is a PITA, he also knows that you can quickly wiggle the jam loose with a pair of pliers and get it up and running without a stoppage at all. Everything is fine, until it isn’t, and suddenly you’ve got skeleton hands because you didn’t feel like taking time to properly de-energize and LOTO tag the system.

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    Since they cant handle firearms safely then they shouldnt be permitted to have any.

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      Until they start blaming protesters for it. Like Israel when their occupying forces run over their own unexploded ordnance and they blame it on hamas.

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        …stateside police have been doing that for decades: if an officer or bystander are injured or killed due to police negligence during an operation, it’s routine practice to charge the suspect, rationalisation being that it wouldn’t have happened if law enforcement hadn’t mobilised on account of whatever the suspect did to arouse their negligance…

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          Felony murder is used like that all the time, for any death that they say results or was influenced by your lawbreaking. Like if I asked you for a ride to the store, then went in the store and shot someone, jumped in your car and went home. Even if you didn’t know you are vulnerable, and we all know how prosecutors and police lie.

          What is it, a 15 or 20 year felony, often tacked onto a list of other crimes. But if for a police that shot himself chasing you or something they might even bring more extreme charges. Like I’ve heard of real world cases of people spitting on police that were charged with attempted murder, theory being they were trying to give them terminal diseases, but the alleged spitter didn’t have any disease, they just charged that as a reaction.

          Spitting on someone is bullshit, but what about when you are talking, sometimes a little bit of spit will fly out of your mouth and land on someone, it happens to everyone occasionally.

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            Felony murder is used like that all the time, for any death that they say results or was influenced by your lawbreaking.

            Unless it’s something trivial, like storming the capitol of the country and getting a few folks killed along the way.