This is ridiclous

  • emax_gomax@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    I really hope this is one of those tactile hit it from the top and it’ll trigger from the bottom designs. But more likely they just never expect you to use it.

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    14 hours ago

    Oh an Apple thread. More people angry at something they were never going to buy anyway.

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          9 hours ago

          True innovation tho. There was no other mouse you couldn’t use while charging.

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        7 hours ago

        Excuse me. Some of us do buy Apple products. And there’s nothing that comes close to the bargain price of the base model, so we laugh at it while buying it too.

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      9 hours ago

      Gotta get the Apple haters to be their #1 advertisers for free.

      Keep it up people. Apple did almost nothing to advertise this computer. You’re the advertisement.

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      7 hours ago

      I guess I’ll be the exception as someone who does have a macmini because it is the best priced mini pc that can’t be beat, and will likely get the base model for this too for the same reason.

      But I still would prefer a power button in the front.

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    14 hours ago

    Assuming you mount it on the back of something that would probably be a pretty good place.

    I use a lot of mini Linux computers and mount them to the back of monitors. I could see this design being perfect for that except it’s way more expensive lol

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    1 day ago

    Well at least now you can actually see the damn black ports on the silver chassis. The M2 Mac Mini has the black ports on the black backside and it’s such a pain in the ass trying to find the USB C ports when I have to connect something.

    But yeah, putting the power button on the bottom is peak Apple stupidity.

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    I’m not going to get a mac anytime soon, but at least it would stop my cat from powering down everything spontaneously

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    So many people referring to using the button to turn the computer off, but more than 95% of the time, you use the OS to turn a computer off. It’s only when there’s a malfunction you would need to turn it off with a hardware button.

    This button is primarily for turning the computer on.

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        1 day ago

        This button is primarily for turning the computer on.

        Sure but you still need to turn it on though?

        ?

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          1 day ago

          I’m trying to say that it’s still a useful button to have in an accessible spot because, exactly as you said, it is still used to turn it on.

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        9 hours ago

        Not even 0.5% of the time you’re interacting with the computer would you even think about the power button. Maybe in the first week because “lawl it’s on the bottom, Apple so stoopid.” Then you’d just get used to poking under the bottom of the computer and it turns on.

        IMO this is infinitely better than on the back like the old Mac mini. My mini is behind my headphone amp, and under a monitor so any time I need to hit the power button it’s a LONG awkward reach.

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          8 hours ago

          That’s assuming there’s sufficient space. Even then if you look at the picture, you can see that the power button is on the bottom of the back side of the device. This makes it even harder to reach than if it were simply on the back since you’d need to contort your finger on top of a long awkward reach.

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      A short press of the power button shuts down almost any computer in existence, why would you use the OS?

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        It’s still the OS doing it, it’s just reacting to the power button press like any other input device.

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        1 day ago

        You raise a good point

        Honestly for me it’s muscle memory from the Windows 95 days of “it is now safe to turn off your computer” but I also don’t trust the OS to correctly interpret the ACPI signal sent by the power button 100% of the time. Obviously I’m not an average user, but I could see where an average user might consistently single press the power button to turn off a computer

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      22 hours ago

      I turn off my computer everyday maybe I’m one of those crazy ones. I think they did that so people would be discouraged to turn it off. They want the users to use their new AI feature. My other thinking is marketing if people talk about your product that’s probably a good thing.

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      1 day ago

      Well like a lover you must reach behind and underneath to turn them on!

      …I seriously do not like Apples design language that basically requires me to fondle unseeable parts of the computer to find the power button. Too much risk of spiders back there!

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      I assume there will be a power button on the keyboard or mouse. This is just sort of a backup.

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          I don’t, but apple does. This is why the touch ID is in the keyboard. To be fair it does come as a unit if you buy the mac new.

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    1 day ago

    Please don’t ever turn your computer off, it makes it really hard to spy on you. Thanks -Apple

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    20 hours ago

    Unfortunately “punish them by not buying it” won’t work for someone as big as them.

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    I… uh… I know it’s going to be an unpopular opinion, but it makes sense. It’s not intended for daily usage - macs wake up on a keyboard or cursor movement. Sitting on the back increases the chance of accidental presses when you are trying to plug something in.

    You have a very few specific incidents where you would need to press the power button. 80% of their user base will not use the power button after the first initial press.

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      Standby pointlessly draws power. I switch off all devices that don’t run on battery for that reason. But I’m not exactly Apple’s target audience anyway since I also consider the price before buying stuff.

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        They are doing the Nike mistake - they are targeting users that have already purchased a Mac. Data-driven decisions are great, but this would just result in alienating people who are not already customers, or chase people out who are unhappy with this decision, so their next purchase will not be a Mac.

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        9 hours ago

        These machines draw 1 watt in sleep. There’s no need to turn them off.

        You’re probably using more power shutting down your PC every day than if you just put it in sleep. A minute of chugging away booting and loading all your junk at 100 watts vs 1 watt, and no waiting.

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    After seeing the mouse with ports on the bottom. I’m convinced that there’s a disgruntled designer on their team and this is a cry for help.

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    Apparently there is a button on the keyboard, so you get to buy an Apple keyboard (I guess that is bundled?) and don’t get to use your own keyboard with it.

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      Doesn’t look like it, or at least, they’ve not included one before (you just got a power cord), so it’s doubtful they would start including one now. Either that, or they’re about to release a power-button/TouchID dongle specifically to use as a separate power switch.

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        21 hours ago

        Why am I buying a machine that small if I need to make space for two separate keyboards? I can just buy a different thing instead.

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          10 hours ago

          Sounds like you should buy a different thing. I bought one, though. None of this keyboard stuff matters to me, since I won’t even be using a keyboard with it

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          22 hours ago

          Oh, I had one of theses keyboards!

          Pushing the snooze button insta crashed the PC.

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          22 hours ago

          How often do you use the power button to turn on your computer? These days I might use it once a year, at most!

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            22 hours ago

            Literally every single time I use it. I only need it to be on when I’m using it, and I don’t use it every day.

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              21 hours ago

              How often do you use it, if not every day? Once a week? Once a month?

              I use my laptop every day so it makes sense that I don’t use the power button even though it’s right there. I also have a raspberry pi set up to run Retropie that I only turn on once or twice a year when I have an old friend in from out of town. In that case I use the power button every single time but I don’t mind that it’s kind of finicky (I have to turn on several other devices with it as well as a power strip to power them all) because I don’t use it that often.

              I could see the new Mac Mini being a bit annoying with its bottom side power button if you’re using it every other day. But honestly I would be more annoyed at the boot time taking 30s than the 2s it takes to reach under the case and power it up. If I had one I would probably just get the keyboard with built in power button and finger print reader though. I use the finger print reader on my laptop all the time because it unlocks my password manager.

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          23 hours ago

          I think the special button on the keyboard is a fingerprint/lock button. Not sure if the computer supports powering on by pressing any key like the MacBooks, but it certainly will wake from sleep with any key. I don’t think you’re supposed to fully power it down as part of regular use, so they can get by with a less accessible power button