This is ridiclous

  • emax_gomax@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    I really hope this is one of those tactile hit it from the top and it’ll trigger from the bottom designs. But more likely they just never expect you to use it.

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    16 hours ago

    Oh an Apple thread. More people angry at something they were never going to buy anyway.

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          11 hours ago

          True innovation tho. There was no other mouse you couldn’t use while charging.

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        9 hours ago

        Excuse me. Some of us do buy Apple products. And there’s nothing that comes close to the bargain price of the base model, so we laugh at it while buying it too.

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          4 hours ago

          I can get an I9 32gb 1Tb mini pc for under 500€. Where is the bargain?

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      11 hours ago

      Gotta get the Apple haters to be their #1 advertisers for free.

      Keep it up people. Apple did almost nothing to advertise this computer. You’re the advertisement.

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      9 hours ago

      I guess I’ll be the exception as someone who does have a macmini because it is the best priced mini pc that can’t be beat, and will likely get the base model for this too for the same reason.

      But I still would prefer a power button in the front.

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    16 hours ago

    Assuming you mount it on the back of something that would probably be a pretty good place.

    I use a lot of mini Linux computers and mount them to the back of monitors. I could see this design being perfect for that except it’s way more expensive lol

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    18 minutes ago

    It’s a bit of a bummer given the power of the machine it would be otherwise good in IT environments. The small size would allow a rack or stack of them. This one feature design choice makes that not possible. It’s on purpose.

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    1 day ago

    Well at least now you can actually see the damn black ports on the silver chassis. The M2 Mac Mini has the black ports on the black backside and it’s such a pain in the ass trying to find the USB C ports when I have to connect something.

    But yeah, putting the power button on the bottom is peak Apple stupidity.

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    1 day ago

    I’m not going to get a mac anytime soon, but at least it would stop my cat from powering down everything spontaneously

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    So many people referring to using the button to turn the computer off, but more than 95% of the time, you use the OS to turn a computer off. It’s only when there’s a malfunction you would need to turn it off with a hardware button.

    This button is primarily for turning the computer on.

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        This button is primarily for turning the computer on.

        Sure but you still need to turn it on though?

        ?

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          1 day ago

          I’m trying to say that it’s still a useful button to have in an accessible spot because, exactly as you said, it is still used to turn it on.

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        11 hours ago

        Not even 0.5% of the time you’re interacting with the computer would you even think about the power button. Maybe in the first week because “lawl it’s on the bottom, Apple so stoopid.” Then you’d just get used to poking under the bottom of the computer and it turns on.

        IMO this is infinitely better than on the back like the old Mac mini. My mini is behind my headphone amp, and under a monitor so any time I need to hit the power button it’s a LONG awkward reach.

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          10 hours ago

          That’s assuming there’s sufficient space. Even then if you look at the picture, you can see that the power button is on the bottom of the back side of the device. This makes it even harder to reach than if it were simply on the back since you’d need to contort your finger on top of a long awkward reach.

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      A short press of the power button shuts down almost any computer in existence, why would you use the OS?

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        It’s still the OS doing it, it’s just reacting to the power button press like any other input device.

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        1 day ago

        You raise a good point

        Honestly for me it’s muscle memory from the Windows 95 days of “it is now safe to turn off your computer” but I also don’t trust the OS to correctly interpret the ACPI signal sent by the power button 100% of the time. Obviously I’m not an average user, but I could see where an average user might consistently single press the power button to turn off a computer

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      24 hours ago

      I turn off my computer everyday maybe I’m one of those crazy ones. I think they did that so people would be discouraged to turn it off. They want the users to use their new AI feature. My other thinking is marketing if people talk about your product that’s probably a good thing.

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      1 day ago

      Well like a lover you must reach behind and underneath to turn them on!

      …I seriously do not like Apples design language that basically requires me to fondle unseeable parts of the computer to find the power button. Too much risk of spiders back there!

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      1 day ago

      I assume there will be a power button on the keyboard or mouse. This is just sort of a backup.

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          I don’t, but apple does. This is why the touch ID is in the keyboard. To be fair it does come as a unit if you buy the mac new.

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    Please don’t ever turn your computer off, it makes it really hard to spy on you. Thanks -Apple

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    22 hours ago

    Unfortunately “punish them by not buying it” won’t work for someone as big as them.

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    I… uh… I know it’s going to be an unpopular opinion, but it makes sense. It’s not intended for daily usage - macs wake up on a keyboard or cursor movement. Sitting on the back increases the chance of accidental presses when you are trying to plug something in.

    You have a very few specific incidents where you would need to press the power button. 80% of their user base will not use the power button after the first initial press.

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      Standby pointlessly draws power. I switch off all devices that don’t run on battery for that reason. But I’m not exactly Apple’s target audience anyway since I also consider the price before buying stuff.

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        They are doing the Nike mistake - they are targeting users that have already purchased a Mac. Data-driven decisions are great, but this would just result in alienating people who are not already customers, or chase people out who are unhappy with this decision, so their next purchase will not be a Mac.

      • fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        11 hours ago

        These machines draw 1 watt in sleep. There’s no need to turn them off.

        You’re probably using more power shutting down your PC every day than if you just put it in sleep. A minute of chugging away booting and loading all your junk at 100 watts vs 1 watt, and no waiting.

  • Toes♀@ani.social
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    After seeing the mouse with ports on the bottom. I’m convinced that there’s a disgruntled designer on their team and this is a cry for help.